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Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
- thomasjames 13y agoDoes anyone know what the effective bandwidth and latency would be between machines? They talk about thousands of cores a little too casually. I guess they mean unrelated independent instances of some task as opposed to actual parallelism. I am confused as to what market segment they are going for here.
- ldargin 13y agoAccording to this review, their bandwidth is high and latency low, compared to EC2: http://bit.ly/Z3Peob http://bit.ly/Z3Peob
- andrewem 13y agoNon-shortened link: http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/by-the-numbers-how-google-compute-engine-stacks-up-to-amazon-ec2/ http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/by-the-numbers-how-google-compu...
- thomasjames 13y agoThat is pretty fast. Obviously not like infiniband or what you use for message passing, but pretty considerable. It would be difficult to scale to thousands of nodes that need to communicate, but it is definitely good for most applications. When they mentioned the biostatistics group, I thought they might have been making a pass at scientific HPC type applications, but I guess this is more specialized. Prices are really reasonable, too.
- jgreen10 13y agohttp://blog.zencoder.com/2012/07/23/first-look-at-google-compute-engine-for-video-transcoding/ http://blog.zencoder.com/2012/07/23/first-look-at-google-com...
- ldargin 13y agoIt looks like Google improved things a bit in the 7 months since that review.
- icey 13y agoAfter being bitten a few times by Google unceremoniously shutting down services, it feels like unnecessary risk-taking to build software on their infrastructure.
- bane 13y agoGoogle's done a great job shutting down much used and loved services. Perhaps it'd be a good idea for them to get behind what they're committed to supporting long term and make some public commitments.
- yanw 13y agoDifference is you actually have to pay for this one.
- ww520 13y agoAppEngine was a pay service too but price rise pretty much forced many people out.
- yanw 13y agoGAE had to become self-sustaining and now it's less of a risk for its customers. Google wants GCE to compete with AWS so pricing will be have to be competitive.
- plorkyeran 13y agoIt's not so much the difference between free and paid that matters as whether or not the pricing is actually economically viable. The original GAE pricing pretty obviously wasn't, so it might as well have been a free product in that you were relying on Google continuing to want to subsidize it for whatever reason.
- ww520 13y agoHow do we as customers know whether a pricing posted by a company is viable or not? What is the criteria for viability? Someone didn't get his bonus because of growth not meeting target? Or the engineering budget has blown up passed expectation? It doesn't mean those will not happen again.
- t0 13y ago$93/month seems a bit outrageous. What do they offer that makes it worth this much?
- tomash 13y agoIt's Google, so you have a guarantee it won't be shut down in the near future. Ohwait...
- DonnyV 13y agoYeah and thats only for single vcore. Maybe for 2 vcores. Do you really need 420GB for single. How about half that and give me another vcore.
- tonfa 13y agoThe fastest (at least in term of terasort) hadoop platform?
- IheartApplesDix 13y agoIs that a question or a statement?
- espeed 13y agoMapR breaks the Hadoop TeraSort world record using Google Compute Engine (https://plus.google.com/+GoogleDevelopers/posts/NURRXZ985XV https://plus.google.com/+GoogleDevelopers/posts/NURRXZ985XV) Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iQzMoy41_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iQzMoy41_k
- OGinparadise 13y agoThese are paid services but before I'd jump in, Google would have to guarantee this service for say 5 years, with updates and no catch (like increasing the price by 5000% to force you out.) Microsoft is a lot of things, but one they do good is guaranteed, long term, support for their products. At least for the core ones. For example they are still supporting Windows XP, so when Coca Cola signs at the dotted line they know that the hundreds of millions they spend on developing their specific apps, they will serve them for at least 10 years. That's worth extra to me and apparently to many others. Going all in in Google an then Google deciding that their latest experiment is not worth their time is painful. It will most likely ruin the start-up. This may seem as an emotional knee-jerk reaction to Reader, but it's the reality. You cannot throw 100 things against the wall, ask people to invest time and money on them and then drop all but a few of them. Trust is gone, fool me once and all...
- ccorda 13y agoAs part of their pricing switch a few years ago, Google committed to a 3 year depcreation period for App Engine: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/05/year-ahead-for-google-app-engine.html http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/05/year-ahead-for-g... "For App Engine, leaving Preview will include providing all paid users a 99.95% uptime service level agreement, operational and developer support, billing via invoice, a new Terms of Service agreement geared towards businesses, and a new, easier to understand usage-based pricing structure for App Engine that is in line with the value App Engine provides. It will also reaffirm our deprecation policy whereby we will support deprecated versions of product APIs for 3 years, allowing applications written to prior API specifications to continue to function." A quick comparison of the TOS shows that Compute Engine doesn't have the same policy, but IANAL, so I could be missing something.
- magicalist 13y agoit looks like you get one year from announcement of deprecation: https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/terms https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/terms (see 7.3) Compute Engine also isn't really in the same realm of worry as App Engine, for some, at least. Most of what you're getting is immediately migrateable if it's going to be shut down, as opposed to app engine, where there are some migration paths to similar stacks, but no flip-a-switch path to converting existing code and data to a "standard" stack (at least from my understanding. I haven't tried compute engine).
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- donretag 13y agoStill waiting for naked domains...
- jsnk 13y agoDoes anyone have experience in deploying Rails app to both Amazon EC2 and Google App Engine? How was your experience in terms of price, speed and easiness of deploying/maintaining?
- ww520 13y agoI haven't looked at AppEngine lately but I believe you cannot run Rails on it. It has its own proprietary service and API that you have to write against. It's not like EC2 where you pretty much can install anything and do whatever.
- outside1234 13y agoIs anyone actually using compute engine here? Would be interested in your experiences. The scalr reference point sounds like payola to me.
- icco 13y agoI'm using it (and I have seen similar results consistently to scalr's), but I also work for Google (and my load is a minecraft server, not a business), so I guess my opinion is biased. Here's another review though: http://www.stackdriver.com/gce-cassandra/ http://www.stackdriver.com/gce-cassandra/
- veesahni 13y ago4% seems underwhelming given regular double digit reductions from amazon
- dagw 13y agoI'm seeing lots of numbers here of throughput, latency and IO, all of which are great, but does anyone have any experience with cpu performance. Will a GCE High CPU machine beat an EC2 high CPU machine in straight flops?
- wmf 13y agoIt's KVM on Sandy Bridge; effectively the same as EC2 cluster compute. http://blog.zencoder.com/2012/07/23/first-look-at-google-compute-engine-for-video-transcoding/ http://blog.zencoder.com/2012/07/23/first-look-at-google-com...
- icco 13y agoWhere in that article does it say anything about KVM or sandy bridge?
- kalgen 13y agoUnder Raw Transcoding Speed: "Intel Xeon (Sandy Bridge – probably E5-2670) – 8 cores @ 2.60GHz" Also KVM: https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/faq https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/faq and 2.6Ghz Sandy Bridge: https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/available_resources https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/available_resourc...
- bhangi 13y agoDid I read correctly that you have to sign up for a Gold Support Package @ $400 / month before you have access to GCE?
- wmf 13y agoAt this point, yes.