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I'm hoping it's a fake, too, but three compromised accounts (Twitter, Facebook, and company blog, all of which are still active) showing the same thing would ma
by Udo 14y ago
I'm hoping it's a fake, too, but three compromised accounts (Twitter, Facebook, and company blog, all of which are still active) showing the same thing would make this the most well-executed hack I've seen in a while - usually fakes like that are just quick drive-by posts.
The Twitter straw man brigade is already making it into "fired for for speaking out against sexism". I'm really hoping Sendgrid doesn't give them their martyr. And I'm also hoping Sendgrid didn't do that just to surrender to the crazy male attack squad that seems to be so vocal and abusive, not to forget criminal.
On a side note, Twitter has really turned into an absolute sewer, with polemic knee-jerk reactions and utter foolishness ruling supreme. I wish it was the idiots on Twitter who were getting fired - both the threatening jerky men as well as the opportunistic feminist ones.
- danso 14y agoMaybe I'm being stereotypical here, but not only is this a well-executed hack, it has well-written copy. Which is not standard for malicious hackers looking to make a point.
- Udo 14y agoExactly, that's what I was thinking, too. Trolling on a hacked account is almost always clearly distinguishable from the legitimate content there.
- pbreit 14y agoClearly it does.
- gojomo 14y agoThe Facebook statement isn't that good. For example, this wording... While we generally are sensitive and confidential with respect to employee matters, the situation has taken on a public nature. ...is extremely unlike the words usually used by a company dealing with a controversial employment matter. It's more like the puffery used in 419 scams.
- mehulkar 14y agoNot really. You just have to get access to one of those services the publishes to all your accounts.
- jneal 14y agoI don't believe this is fake, as much as I wish it was. They are still updating their Twitter and status blogs and I'd assume if it was fake, they'd see it and at least delete it. I've attempted calling and speaking with them directly through various direct extensions but no one answers.
- runjake 14y agoBecause nobody uses the same credentials for all their accounts? Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's fake, either. But a healthy dose of caution and skepticism doesn't hurt.
- nwh 14y agoThere's four instances of the message now. There's no way it is fake. http://blog.sendgrid.com/sendgrid-statement/ http://blog.sendgrid.com/sendgrid-statement/ http://status.sendgrid.com/ http://status.sendgrid.com/ https://twitter.com/SendGrid/statuses/314768776577036288 https://twitter.com/SendGrid/statuses/314768776577036288 https://www.facebook.com/SendGrid/posts/10151502570463967 https://www.facebook.com/SendGrid/posts/10151502570463967
- peterwwillis 14y agoWhat, you think it's physically impossible that someone could reuse a password on more than one service, or register them all with a single Gmail account?
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- ericmsimons 14y agoNo, it's just incredibly unlikely that someone hijacked four different services and have been able to keep the owners locked out of their accounts.
- bsilvereagle 14y agoYou only have to hijack one account if the password across all four services isn't unique.
- eslaught 14y agoYes, but the owners have four different support lines to call to get their account back, so the odds of it staying compromised is that much lower.
- Yver 14y agoHow do you explain that nobody working there is talking about being hacked? Do you think everybody there was using the same password for their Twitter accounts, Facebook, etc...
- anigbrowl 14y agoTwitter has really turned into an absolute sewer Content-wise, I don't think any service is immune from that - Reddit can be pretty horrible and I was shocked by some of the stuff posted to HN Tuesday & yesterday (though it was quickly cleaned up). My problem with Twitter is that the brevity and emphasis on the present moment makes for bad social interactions; the faux-urgency of social media in general elevates sensation above substance. It's so easy to get the Internet Hate Machine going, and offers such large ego rewards for people who feel they are able to shape and direct it, that it's become a regular part of discourse. Back in pre-web days when NNTP was in regular use, discussions of contentious subjects were just as vigorous but nowhere near as vicious or reductionist. Our ability to project our own ideas has significantly outpaced our willingness to consider those of others, it seems.
- Udo 14y ago> I was shocked by some of the stuff posted to HN Tuesday & yesterday As was I, but it got taken care of. I still wish people wouldn't have downvoted Richards' comments into oblivion though. However, what's really different on HN is not that sometimes bad things happen, it's that there are a lot of people here capable of considering a balanced opinion and, perhaps most importantly, willing to question the premise of things. Users on HN often did not simply fall in line behind the stereotypical camps that feed on this kind of issue, and I don't see that same capability for actual thought anywhere on Twitter. By and large we may disagree (hopefully with civility) on conclusions, and those are productive discussions to have, but we're as a community able to examine the issue as a whole. That's a pretty unique and valuable trait. I'm still marveling at how ridiculously easy it is to create fake wedge issue drama like this, and all of a sudden it's #teamadria on the one side, and creepy macho assholes on the other, without a single neocortical neuron to share between them.
- untog 14y agoUsers on HN often did not simply fall in line behind the stereotypical camps that feed on this kind of issue Oh god, they do. There are certainly dissenting voices but Hacker News has proven itself time and time again to be unable to examine the issue of gender, or more tellingly, unwilling to. These posts disappearing is not a one-off, there have been numerous instances of people flagging 'difficult' posts on HN, so that we can all continue arguing about semi-colons.
- mkr-hn 14y agoIt might be unlikely if this were over a random [anime,gaming,furry,...] convention, but these are people at the leading edge of web technology. Given the audience, it's entirely possible someone within it could orchestrate such an attack. That tweet is unsigned, where all others are. They clearly have a well-enforced policy of tweet signing, but the firing tweet has none. FB posts have the same signing--except the post about the firing. The blog and status portal sites have the comment under clear user accounts, so it doesn't look like they're trying to have a unified front on it, as might be implied by unsigned tweets and FB posts.
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