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Noticing how the M6 has finally doubled the M1's single core performance, nearly six years later. The M1 mini was my first foray into mac computing. I used it a
by magicmicah85 5d ago
Noticing how the M6 has finally doubled the M1's single core performance, nearly six years later. The M1 mini was my first foray into mac computing. I used it as my daily driver until I got the M1 Macbook Pro a year later. Been using that ever since. I think Apple's real problem is that they built machines that can last. I've had no interest in upgrading or buying something else, even though I want to just for pet projects but can't justify the extra cost.
- tuesdaynight 5d agoProblem? Aren't they selling like cake because of how good their MacBooks are? Other companies aren't that good and I imagine they don't sell as many laptops as Apple does.
- soperj 5d agoLenovo still sells over double the amount of laptops. 48.5 million to 23.5 million for Apple.
- tuesdaynight 5d agoSurprised. I thought Apple would sell more, specially in USA, where the price is not that high because of the purchasing power
- mahboi 5d agoApple might be the top laptop seller in the US, not sure. There are more people using Windows, even in the US.
- Theodores 5d ago50% of consumer spending is by the top 10% of consumers, with that 10% generally being Apple ecosystem people. Anyone with ecommmerce stats can confirm this, Apple consumers just shop and consume more, particularly at the high end. This gives the impression that Apple are even bigger than they are.
- throw0101c 5d ago> 48.5 million to 23.5 million for Apple. Curious to know how many of these sales are 'corporate purchases' for fleets versus 'personal purchases'. Given a choice, would most people prefer a Lenovo/PC or an Apple product? How many have Lenovo/PC IT-managed work machines and also (choose to) purchase a PC for personal use versus choosing an Apple?
- drnick1 5d ago> Given a choice, would most people prefer a Lenovo/PC or an Apple product? I certainly would, because I demand Linux on all my computers. I can't stand the idea of being forced to sacrifice x% of my disk for things like "Apple Intelligence" or other bloatware that Apple decided I can't remove because it is a "system component." That, plus all the privacy and user control issues posed by an operating system effectively remotely controlled by a third party.
- soperj 5d agoBut everyone loves Bono?
- jack_pp 5d agoI feel apple is huge mostly in the US, rest of the world apple has a reputation for being overpriced so people have mostly never used a Mac and if you have a lifetime of windows usage switching is jarring.. speaking from experience
- throw0101c 5d ago> I think Apple's real problem is that they built machines that can last. So do Toyota and Honda, and their sales seems be pretty steady.
- mahboi 5d agoToyota and Honda have competitors that are pretty interchangeable, like each other.
- throw0101c 5d ago> Toyota and Honda have competitors that are pretty interchangeable, like each other. Do any of these competitors build "machines that can last" as much as Toyota and Honda? Does any other manufacturer have a longevity reputation of either of these two? What are the depreciation schedules of competitors (AIUI, T/H hold their value pretty well)?
- mahboi 5d agoToyota and Honda have each other as direct competitors. If one of them sacrifices reliability, it's over. There are also second tier ones like Nissan making interchangeable cars, so if say Toyota stoops to Nissan's level, then they have to start selling at Nissan prices. I would also say Ford, but their reputation for reliability applies only to their trucks.
- WesolyKubeczek 5d agoFunny that Honda's hybrids seem to be licensing Toyota's eCVT magic, so it's quite a bit like Apple and Samsung, where they would be filling each other's pockets while also being at each other's throat.
- NobodyNada 5d agoHonda's hybrids are their own thing. They're mostly-series hybrids with one or two direct-drive gears for cruising speeds, as opposed to Toyota's parallel hybrid system.
- mahboi 5d agoI also use the M1 mini. It replaced my 2009 Mac Pro. Apple didn't always make solid machines, like the crap 2016-2019 MBPs, but now they've gotten it right.
- gumby 5d agoThis is why they are pushing into services. Now the devices are (profitable) channels for upselling. Cook was willing to do some of this, but the new guy seems more interested in this. Unfortunately it degrades a major value prop of using Apple in the first place.
- rayiner 5d agoYeah, my M1 mini with 16GB is great as a daily driver even on Golden Gate. Noticed some slowness recently indexing a huge mail archive, but otherwise I don't even really notice slowdowns.
- ink_13 5d agoTheir machines have always lasted. I bought a refurbished Intel Macbook Pro 13" for personal use in 2015, and kept it for 7 years (I did replace the battery with an iFixit kit along the way). I only upgraded because I figured there's no way I would tell people I work with professionally to depend on hardware that old, so in later 2022 I replaced it with a refurbished M1 MBP 13" which I'm still using and have no plans to replace any time soon.
- mjhagen 5d agoYep, I was daily driving a Quadra 700 in 1998.
- chris_money202 5d agoI got the M4 mini and then bought a refurbished M1 MacBook air so I could ssh/remote desktop into my mini from the couch. Love that MacBook Air, cost like 200 bucks and is super-fast.
- asimovDev 5d agoWe've been using M2 Pro machines at our workplace and they still are fast, quiet and have long battery life even at ~85 percent of battery life. It would feel wrong to upgrade from these. 10 years ago it would've been a no brainer to upgrade a 2 year old MacBook in a professional setting but nowadays I feel like I could go 5+ years on a single Apple Silicon macbook with how light our workloads seem to be for these chips
- m463 5d ago> I think Apple's real problem is that they built machines that can last There has always been a healthy used apple market