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In the context of how it was done, saying that they would give them a list of people and a day to think it over, it really is a threat, it's a kind of extortion

In the context of how it was done, saying that they would give them a list of people and a day to think it over, it really is a threat, it's a kind of extortion.

free_bip 17d ago
You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what extortion is. It's only extortion if the one extorting is the one receiving the benefit. Hiring a random artist on Fiverr would still make them happy (since the poster is not AI) but would not benefit them in any way.
- orangedog 17d ago
  That's not what the "threat" said. It said that they would give them a list of people, it isn't obvious that hiring some random would have made them happy. It's not even obvious whether this wasn't just a convenient way to make some money for a friend.
  - free_bip 17d ago
    I understand if you don't like how the person phrased it, but the goal of the DM was obviously to get the store owner to replace the AI poster. Assuming that they would have gone on a crusade because they didn't pick a "preferred artist" is pure unsupported speculation on your part.
    - orangedog 17d ago
      It comes across as spiteful, I don't think it is at all obvious and it isn't obvious to the store owner either. We just disagree, and that's why this is the wrong approach to enacting whatever kind of change they wanted.
    - joquarky 17d ago
      There is arrogance behind the use of "obviously" here.
jrflowers 17d ago
It is worth pointing out that the article doesn’t even imply that the business suffered any negative outcome here (ie damage or loss of sales etc.) It also doesn’t implied that the person threatened that the business might suffer any negative outcome, just that they would talk about the ad that the business made and put out for people to see and share. This article is very careful not to actually elaborate on what the “threat” might’ve meant because I’d imagine that baselessly speculating out loud about what they imagine it could be would open them up to getting sued. It’s all just uwu smol bean coffee shop chiropractor bullied by mean anti-ai mob dreck
- throw2836463 17d ago
  Search for "but at what cost" and you'll see news companies do it all the time. You'll find these ridiculous headlines like, "Company cures cancer, but at what cost."

In the context of how it was done, saying that they would give them a list of people and a day to think it over, it really is a threat, it's a kind of extortion.

free_bip 17d ago

You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what extortion is. It's only extortion if the one extorting is the one receiving the benefit. Hiring a random artist on Fiverr would still make them happy (since the poster is not AI) but would not benefit them in any way.

orangedog 17d ago
That's not what the "threat" said. It said that they would give them a list of people, it isn't obvious that hiring some random would have made them happy. It's not even obvious whether this wasn't just a convenient way to make some money for a friend.
- free_bip 17d ago
  I understand if you don't like how the person phrased it, but the goal of the DM was obviously to get the store owner to replace the AI poster. Assuming that they would have gone on a crusade because they didn't pick a "preferred artist" is pure unsupported speculation on your part.
  - orangedog 17d ago
    It comes across as spiteful, I don't think it is at all obvious and it isn't obvious to the store owner either. We just disagree, and that's why this is the wrong approach to enacting whatever kind of change they wanted.
  - joquarky 17d ago
    There is arrogance behind the use of "obviously" here.

jrflowers 17d ago

It is worth pointing out that the article doesn’t even imply that the business suffered any negative outcome here (ie damage or loss of sales etc.) It also doesn’t implied that the person threatened that the business might suffer any negative outcome, just that they would talk about the ad that the business made and put out for people to see and share. This article is very careful not to actually elaborate on what the “threat” might’ve meant because I’d imagine that baselessly speculating out loud about what they imagine it could be would open them up to getting sued. It’s all just uwu smol bean coffee shop chiropractor bullied by mean anti-ai mob dreck

throw2836463 17d ago
Search for "but at what cost" and you'll see news companies do it all the time. You'll find these ridiculous headlines like, "Company cures cancer, but at what cost."