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The UK left, Iceland just voted not to join. The EU does not have a military to annex any neighbours with. Individual states do, but non are really great power

by graemep 22d ago

The UK left, Iceland just voted not to join. The EU does not have a military to annex any neighbours with. Individual states do, but non are really great powers any more.

penguin_booze 22d ago
> The UK left Yes, you can read all about how that came about, and how it's going. > The EU does not have a military to annex any neighbours with. Individual states do, but non are really great powers any more. You're projecting an American ideal. Not all nations are--nor want to be--America, and we're thankful for that.
- graemep 22d ago
  > Yes, you can read all about how that came about, and how it's going. Yes, it seems to have made no difference. economically - economy performing much the same as France and Germany. Lots of lives saved by the faster covid vaccine rollout which is a plus IMO. > You're projecting an American ideal. Not all nations are--nor want to be--America, and we're thankful for that. You are missing my point. Not annexing anyone when its not an option because you cannot does not prove anything. I have never even been to America - why would I project an American ideal?
  - khalic 22d ago
    edit: removed, didn’t properly read the context
    - graemep 22d ago
      > Do you seriously consider invasion of other countries a good thing No, of course not. I really do not understand how you interpreted what I said as saying taht. Can people please read what I said in the context of the comment i replied to!
      - khalic 22d ago
        Sorry, corrected
  - corford 22d ago
    Brexit has caused an estimated ~6-8% per capita loss of output: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv0m164m84o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv0m164m84o
lefra 22d ago
"Annexing neighbour" is clearly a non-goal of the EU. One of the reason of its existence is to put an end to european countries invading each others all the time.
the_gipsy 22d ago
Do you really think the USA could annex anything but (maybe) Cuba, after seeing how the Iran war is playing out?
etiennebausson 22d ago
Iceland said no because they are afraid of overfishing in their water. It isn't an unreasonable fear, especially given their dependance on that food source. Their "No" was perfectly reasonnable from what I can see. Britain's "Leave" campain was drowning in lies, exageration, and british-empire nostalgia. Those two situations are very different.
Barrin92 22d ago
>The UK left, Iceland just voted not to join. I don't know if you even made it to the end of the first sentence I wrote, but the fact that the UK could leave and is treated with respect, the fact that Iceland, a country of four hundred thousand people, which we could but will never threaten either economically or militarily, can decide their own future is a strength of the union. We do not coerce our neighbors, no matter how small.

by graemep 22d ago

The UK left, Iceland just voted not to join. The EU does not have a military to annex any neighbours with. Individual states do, but non are really great powers any more.

penguin_booze 22d ago

> The UK left Yes, you can read all about how that came about, and how it's going. > The EU does not have a military to annex any neighbours with. Individual states do, but non are really great powers any more. You're projecting an American ideal. Not all nations are--nor want to be--America, and we're thankful for that.

graemep 22d ago
> Yes, you can read all about how that came about, and how it's going. Yes, it seems to have made no difference. economically - economy performing much the same as France and Germany. Lots of lives saved by the faster covid vaccine rollout which is a plus IMO. > You're projecting an American ideal. Not all nations are--nor want to be--America, and we're thankful for that. You are missing my point. Not annexing anyone when its not an option because you cannot does not prove anything. I have never even been to America - why would I project an American ideal?
- khalic 22d ago
  edit: removed, didn’t properly read the context
  - graemep 22d ago
    > Do you seriously consider invasion of other countries a good thing No, of course not. I really do not understand how you interpreted what I said as saying taht. Can people please read what I said in the context of the comment i replied to!
    - khalic 22d ago
      Sorry, corrected
- corford 22d ago
  Brexit has caused an estimated ~6-8% per capita loss of output: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv0m164m84o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv0m164m84o

lefra 22d ago

"Annexing neighbour" is clearly a non-goal of the EU. One of the reason of its existence is to put an end to european countries invading each others all the time.

the_gipsy 22d ago

Do you really think the USA could annex anything but (maybe) Cuba, after seeing how the Iran war is playing out?

etiennebausson 22d ago

Iceland said no because they are afraid of overfishing in their water. It isn't an unreasonable fear, especially given their dependance on that food source. Their "No" was perfectly reasonnable from what I can see. Britain's "Leave" campain was drowning in lies, exageration, and british-empire nostalgia. Those two situations are very different.

Barrin92 22d ago

>The UK left, Iceland just voted not to join. I don't know if you even made it to the end of the first sentence I wrote, but the fact that the UK could leave and is treated with respect, the fact that Iceland, a country of four hundred thousand people, which we could but will never threaten either economically or militarily, can decide their own future is a strength of the union. We do not coerce our neighbors, no matter how small.