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There is always that one person who ruins the game for everyone, metaphorically speaking. Despicable behaviour.
by robtherobber 18d ago
There is always that one person who ruins the game for everyone, metaphorically speaking. Despicable behaviour.
- tacomagick 18d agoOr Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union, most things here seem to be alleged only.
- JumpCrisscross 18d ago> Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union How would Rockstar being shown to have had a mole in the union advance Rockstar's interests?
- tacomagick 18d agoSame reason why most companies don't want their workers to unionize?
- JumpCrisscross 18d agoIn response to a comment about "that one person who ruins the game for everyone," a reference to the mole, you said "or Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union." That implies there wasn't a mole, Rockstar made it up. I asked how making up a Rockstar mole in the union would advance any of Rockstar's goals at this junction.
- limagnolia 18d agoIts not clear whether the OP was referring to the mole, or to the person(s) who were allegedly sharing confidential company information on an external, non-company Discord server. Rockstar claims that is why they fired them, though the fired employees allege it was to disrupt union organizing. Depending on ones point of view, either or both actors could be considered despicable.
- robtherobber 18d agoI was indeed referring to the mole. I find that behaviour reprehensible.
- tacomagick 18d agoLetting them dissolve or oppose the union?
- JumpCrisscross 18d ago> Letting them dissolve or oppose the union? You're saying Rockstar would make up a mole that didn't exist, now, and that would somehow help it keep the union dissolved? What?
- tacomagick 18d agoYeah pretty much?
- JumpCrisscross 18d ago> Yeah pretty much? Your hypothesis is Rockstar made up a fake mole, buried it, let the opposition find it and put it in a legal filing, and this somehow helps them. Got it. If this isn't a troll account I'm worried.
- tacomagick 18d agoIf you do not think this is a possibility I guess you must see the world as sunshine and rainbows and corportaions working for our best interest, I don't know what to tell you. Evwrythinf can happen when your employee count is high.
- JumpCrisscross 18d ago> you must see the world as sunshine and rainbows and corportaions working for our best interest I'm literally not seeing the throughline from A to B. It's like saying a greedy capitalist nuked himself as a gotcha. Like, how does that help him? I'm not saying he isn't capable of it. I just literally don't see how it helps him.
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- abirch 18d agoSince this is from court filings, that would be perjury if they can't back it up.
- tacomagick 18d agoWould not be the first time a company lied.
- gruez 18d agoYou'd have to reference rockstar's exact filings, since it's possible to paint a narrative that suggests something, without outright lying.
- abirch 18d agoThat's classic game theory. It'd be better if everyone refuses to defect.
- JumpCrisscross 18d ago> classic game theory I'm not sure it is in unionisation fights, particularly in an industry as tightly knit as gaming. You're trading a short-term kiss from management for being hated across the industry. That forecloses all kinds of career opportunities outside the majors. In game theory, this sort of repeated interaction is exactly what incentivises cooperation.
- Daishiman 17d agoAs long as someone knows that they're going away from the industry good it's enough for a single defection.
- speedstyle 18d agoHumans have the ability to consider things beyond their immediate incentives. Most find it difficult not to. We don't know what benefits they received from defecting anyhow