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All we had to do was not bomb Iran (starting with a school full of girls). There was no benefit to the US in this war, it’s 100% for Israel. Bribery and blackma

All we had to do was not bomb Iran (starting with a school full of girls). There was no benefit to the US in this war, it’s 100% for Israel. Bribery and blackmail, not democracy, are now determining world events.

jswartz 23d ago
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- huntertwo 23d ago
  Is blaming the government of Israel equivalent to blaming the Jews?
  - jswartz 22d ago
    Not always, but often. The poster blaming everything "100%" on Israel tells me that they are not a person of nuance, and people who engage in rigid, black-and-white thinking often have overly simplistic views about how the world works (e.g. Jews control the world). Correlation does not mean causation, but it hints at it.
    - amdivia 22d ago
      That's... a very convoluted way of looking at the world. If he stated any other rigid thought, as, "we must exterminate all mosquitos, they are 100% not needed", would you then conclude he's antisemitic too?
    - tgv 22d ago
      Israel means the state of Israel in this case, very clearly. Don't draw the antisemitism card for everything. You must have heard of the boy who cried wolf, surely?
    - SmasherEpilepti 22d ago
      The majority of criticism of Israel I've seen have nothing to do with Jews or Judaism, but the war crimes by a right-wing militaristic state that engages in constant violent aggression. Outside of extremist Muslim rhetoric, I've seen almost no anti-Jew criticism of Israel, but I've seen many statements like yours that equate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.
      - hn993302 22d ago
        Plenty of mid-right-wing voters like myself just don't like that US politicians are displaying foreign loyalty, regardless of what country it is. It started with Kissinger. I'm not even going to call Israel's wars unjustified, just very clearly shouldn't be our problem.
  - hn993302 22d ago
    It's not exactly Israel being blamed. The government of Israel doesn't fund or operate AIPAC, and the Adelsons aren't Israeli officials.
- Ydarbleoj 22d ago
  Whoa. That's not at all what they said and shows you lack intellectual honesty.
  - bandofthehawk 22d ago
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- Paradigma11 22d ago
  Rubio said that the US attacked because Israel would have attacked anyway. Take it up with him.
- buellerbueller 22d ago
  Thank you for your conflation of Israel and "the Jews" where OP made none. It helps demonstrate the fecklessness of your position.
- bandofthehawk 22d ago
  Oh yeah, that's why he talked about invading so much during his first term and during his campaign, right?
Patirckjdhej 22d ago
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- electrondood 22d ago
  How exactly would you recommend criticizing the actions of the State of Israel then, without being labeled antisemitic? I'm sick of this equivocation. Nobody is claiming that Jewish people in general manipulated Trump into touching the stove. Some facts: * Netanyahu met with Trump in February to show him a presentation intended to convince him to attack Iran. * Netanyahu convinced Trump that it would be fast and easy. * Trump's own intelligence agencies and cabinet members called this "farcical" and "bullshit." * Trump gave the green light anyway, based on Netanyahu's presentation, and against the advice of CIA, State, and the Joint Chiefs. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-wa...
  - Patirckjdhej 22d ago
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    - SmasherEpilepti 22d ago
      So you're saying nobody can criticize the actions of the government of Israel without hating Jews? That's extraordinarily myopic. What happens if a Jewish person disagrees with Israel's actions? Does that revoke their right to be Jewish?
      - Patirckjdhej 22d ago
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        SmasherEpilepti 22d ago
        You're dodging the question and the conversation. Again: Is it possible to criticize the actions of the government of Israel without hating Jews? The government of Israel is simply above reproach because of their religion?

jswartz 23d ago

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huntertwo 23d ago
Is blaming the government of Israel equivalent to blaming the Jews?
- jswartz 22d ago
  Not always, but often. The poster blaming everything "100%" on Israel tells me that they are not a person of nuance, and people who engage in rigid, black-and-white thinking often have overly simplistic views about how the world works (e.g. Jews control the world). Correlation does not mean causation, but it hints at it.
  - amdivia 22d ago
    That's... a very convoluted way of looking at the world. If he stated any other rigid thought, as, "we must exterminate all mosquitos, they are 100% not needed", would you then conclude he's antisemitic too?
  - tgv 22d ago
    Israel means the state of Israel in this case, very clearly. Don't draw the antisemitism card for everything. You must have heard of the boy who cried wolf, surely?
  - SmasherEpilepti 22d ago
    The majority of criticism of Israel I've seen have nothing to do with Jews or Judaism, but the war crimes by a right-wing militaristic state that engages in constant violent aggression. Outside of extremist Muslim rhetoric, I've seen almost no anti-Jew criticism of Israel, but I've seen many statements like yours that equate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.
    - hn993302 22d ago
      Plenty of mid-right-wing voters like myself just don't like that US politicians are displaying foreign loyalty, regardless of what country it is. It started with Kissinger. I'm not even going to call Israel's wars unjustified, just very clearly shouldn't be our problem.
- hn993302 22d ago
  It's not exactly Israel being blamed. The government of Israel doesn't fund or operate AIPAC, and the Adelsons aren't Israeli officials.
Ydarbleoj 22d ago
Whoa. That's not at all what they said and shows you lack intellectual honesty.
- bandofthehawk 22d ago
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Paradigma11 22d ago
Rubio said that the US attacked because Israel would have attacked anyway. Take it up with him.
buellerbueller 22d ago
Thank you for your conflation of Israel and "the Jews" where OP made none. It helps demonstrate the fecklessness of your position.
bandofthehawk 22d ago
Oh yeah, that's why he talked about invading so much during his first term and during his campaign, right?

Patirckjdhej 22d ago

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electrondood 22d ago
How exactly would you recommend criticizing the actions of the State of Israel then, without being labeled antisemitic? I'm sick of this equivocation. Nobody is claiming that Jewish people in general manipulated Trump into touching the stove. Some facts: * Netanyahu met with Trump in February to show him a presentation intended to convince him to attack Iran. * Netanyahu convinced Trump that it would be fast and easy. * Trump's own intelligence agencies and cabinet members called this "farcical" and "bullshit." * Trump gave the green light anyway, based on Netanyahu's presentation, and against the advice of CIA, State, and the Joint Chiefs. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-wa...
- Patirckjdhej 22d ago
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  - SmasherEpilepti 22d ago
    So you're saying nobody can criticize the actions of the government of Israel without hating Jews? That's extraordinarily myopic. What happens if a Jewish person disagrees with Israel's actions? Does that revoke their right to be Jewish?
    - Patirckjdhej 22d ago
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      - SmasherEpilepti 22d ago
        You're dodging the question and the conversation. Again: Is it possible to criticize the actions of the government of Israel without hating Jews? The government of Israel is simply above reproach because of their religion?