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Apple Watch Series 12
- zsoltkacsandi 23d agoDisappointing. Instead of making battery life better that would benefit all of the Apple Watch users, here are some random AI features that most of you never gonna usa, and some new colors.
- recursive 23d agoIt puts the AI on its wrist or it gets the hose again.
- afavour 23d agoAs someone that has had heart issues, their continued improvements there will keep me a loyal customer for a very long time to come. Its position as a health device is underrated in tech circles. As we tech savvy generations age there’s a big market there.
- well_ackshually 23d agoRelying on an Apple Watch instead of a proper medical device if you're having heart issues is, well, uh... There's a reason an Apple Watch isn't a medical device.
- afavour 23d agoConsider for a moment that I and my doctor know my medical situation better than you do. (it is, by the way, an FDA approved class 2 medical device…)
- zsoltkacsandi 23d agoI have hearth issues too, and the metrics Apple provides still do not help detecting them. Not to mention that there is no improvement of their high blood pressure detection. So despite the marketing that they have the most accurate sensor, there is no real advancement here.
- nxc18 23d agoEven if they’re just matching battery life while adding frequent HRV readings, they’ve made a big advancement. Frequent HRV is a requirement to be a WHOOP/Garmin competitor. Previous Apple Watch can do it if you tell it you have afib, but that hurts battery life. FWIW I have told it I have afib. I used to have problems with battery life, but I find the Series 11 can finally last all day and overnight with always on display+afib/HRV monitoring; and it charges fast enough I can get close to 100% in the shower, meaning it effectively does not have battery issues.
- t-writescode 23d agoBattery life is better. > Longer Workout Battery Life and Faster Charging Apple Watch Series 12 continues to offer up to 24 hours of everyday battery life9 and now offers up to 10 hours of battery life during an outdoor workout — 25 percent more than the previous model.10 — An increase to 10 hours of workout tells me battery life is better, but maybe not “better enough” to give the 24 hour number an increase (or the higher HRV checking frequency is eating the rest of the gains)
- zsoltkacsandi 23d agoNo, it’s not. 24 hours is the same as series 11. And you are comparing to series 10, not 11, that already had this improvement. I do not work out 10 hours a day, so that number is literally meaningless/pointless.
- coldtea 23d agoThe iPhone 18 Pro and the Airpods are equally dissapointing. Even the folding iPhone is nothing special.
- FireBeyond 22d agoOh, I'm confused, I was told there were "MASSIVE" (with lots of emphasis) improvements to the processor, battery life, the camera! On the camera side I see "more post processing"... cool?
- sccxy 23d agoMoved to Garmin. Maybe less powerful but battery life is the most important feature for me.
- embedding-shape 23d ago> Maybe less powerful but battery life is the most important feature for me. I've been using Garmin watches for years, wife always had Apple Watches. This year she got envious enough of the battery life that she also switched to Garmin now. Her watches sometimes barely lasted a day, requiring daily charges. Meanwhile, you get a week of battery easily with most Garmins.
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- gregglain 22d agoFrom Apple: "Apple Watch Series 12 continues to offer up to 24 hours of everyday battery life and now offers up to 10 hours of battery life during an outdoor workout — 25 percent more than the previous model. Apple Watch Series 12 also offers faster charging: Just 15 minutes now gets up to 12 hours of additional battery life — 50 percent more than the previous model — so users can quickly recharge while getting ready for the day or before bed."
- rootusrootus 23d agoCounterintutively, that didn't work out well for me. When the watch has ample power to make it through one day, but not two, I just put it on my schedule of daily rituals. Usually just throw it on the charger while I take a shower. But when the battery life is measured in weeks, I don't build any sort of habit like that and I end up finding out about it the hard way. My ideal watch never runs out in a single day and charges fast enough that during my shower it will get me through the next day. Based on the stats of the Series 12, it would probably fit the bill.
- gekoxyz 23d agoI am currently using both an apple watch SE 2 and a garmin vivoactive 5 simultaneously. Even if the Garmin has better battery life, I don't really like it for 2 reasons: - the round watch UI is ugly and doesn't work with the other UI elements. Also I don't mind using a squared watch, I like it. My Casio is also square-ish. - the UX is terrible, the customization is terrible. The default watch faces are all quite ugly, and the Garmin app makes the customization experience even worse. Also, I feel like the sleep is more accurate on the Apple watch than on the Garmin from a couple episodes that happened and in general from the differences in tracking time. Also, as you already said, I just charge the watch everyday while I shower, so battery life is not really an issue for 80% of the time. For the other 20% it's really annoying... but I think a newer model (and I hope that the new ones will be even better on that side) will have better battery life. When the battery life will be ~48 hours it will be perfect for me.
- constantinum 23d agoStaying with Garmin just for amazingly long battery life… and instinct series has solar too
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- 0cf8612b2e1e 23d agoNo chance those are organic? If you are in the market for a multi hundred dollar watch, you must have considered the Garmin and Apple offering for non-time features. Surely some of those people are happy to share their decision.
- stevekemp 22d agoPaying a few hundred dollars for a watch is cheap, compared to the prices for mid/high-end mechanical watches.
- maratc 22d agoStarting price alone doesn't give you the full picture. After five years, Apple Watches are out of support, so even if they work their value goes to $0. The battery is gone by that time, new OSes don't support them, and their only destination is a landfill. Mechanical watches can last decades, and hold some resell value at any age.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 22d agoSure, but when you are buying a mechanical watch, that is a Veblen good, not focused on utility. A $6 Casio will keep better time.
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- minimaxir 23d agoApple Watch is hitting diminishing returns feature-wise. I'm happy with my Series 11 but "it has more accurate heart sensors" isn't really revolutionary, and I believe some of the Apple Intelligence features will be backported anyways. With fast charging, battery life hasn't been an issue; I just put it on the charger while in the shower and that does the trick.
- CodingJeebus 23d agoAnd the Ultra series have been marginally incremental, emphasis on marginally. They announced that Ultra series 1 software support is ending this year, but I just cannot justify buying another one of these at $800.
- HumblyTossed 23d ago> ... and I believe some of the Apple Intelligence features will be backported anyways Will it? Because they kind of made it a point, like they typically do, to say features are only possible due to the new chip.
- jsbisviewtiful 23d ago> With fast charging, battery life hasn't been an issue I sold my 10 last year and haven’t missed it. You don’t have reasonable access to a charger during a marathon or a long hike, the latter of which needed me to charge my Apple Watch 3 times over the course of 12 hours of hiking.
- toasterlovin 23d agoDid a long bike ride recently and just used my iPhone to track the workout. Probably suboptimal, since it doesn't have all the heart rate stuff, but it gets the big picture (elevation gain, speed, distance).
- bwv848 23d agoMeanwhile Coros Pace 4, a 200 dollar watch, has 40 hours of GPS tracking and offline map. I simply can not understand the pricing strategy of Apple. Do they really expect people who are serious about endurance sports and training to get their ridiculously expensive Ultra? Or they are just fine with Garmin taking the biggest chunk of this market?
- Gshaheen 23d agoSwitched from apple to garmin to coros, not looking back. Coros blows everyone out of the water from a user experience standpoint, and they offer excellent value.
- runjake 23d ago> Coros blows everyone out of the water from a user experience standpoint, and they offer excellent value. Why? How?
- vulk 23d agoValue for money, simple software not bloated compared to garmin, heart rate is on par with apple watch. They update their old devices with new features I think one of their models just got a software update for global mapping where you would need to pay extra to get a model with that feature from the competition. Devices could be better in terms of design and fit and finish in time they will get there I hope but overall they are doing pretty good stuff.
- runjake 23d agoIs sync pretty seamless?
- r0fl 23d agoCoros cannot reply to imessages, cannot add to reminders, cannot add to calendar, cannot place a call from the watch Yeah, sounds amazing /s This thread is becoming low level ragebait
- kylestanfield 23d agoPhone can be used for that. No need for it on a watch
- kccqzy 23d agoIt’s a more focused sports experience. I genuinely didn’t use the messaging or reminder or calendar features when I had an Apple Watch, so they are just bloat.
- robviren 23d agoOn what legal footing does this recap feature stand? In fairly certain there are a non-zero amount of laws prohibiting audio recording without consent. And this wrist mounted always listening thing is likely to end up in a lot of places it should not. Probably burried in the end user agreement that it is 100% the users fault.
- jdm2212 23d agoIt produces "high level summaries" so it's perhaps legally akin to note-taking rather than audio recording?
- al_borland 23d agoI wonder how long before we see how well these summaries hold up in court.
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- CodingJeebus 23d agoIANAL but my guess is that they're leaning heavily into the fact that the feature just generates transcripts and does not persist any audio recordings.
- vulk 23d agoI am not sure who and why came up with this looks like a mass surveillance to me.
- al_borland 23d agoIt’s to compete with all the failed AI wearables with the same features.
- doublepg23 23d agoI was saying the same to my friend. PA has very strict two party consent wiretap laws I'm not sure this feature would clear.
- kccqzy 23d agoThe main reason I stopped using an Apple Watch is the lackluster battery life; in this series Apple claims 10 hours of battery life for outdoor workouts but without an iPhone. How is that realistic? If I’m going out for a hourlong run perhaps I don’t bring my iPhone, but I’m doing a multihour outdoor workout I would surely bring my phone, and certainly the extra Bluetooth communication would decrease battery life. It’s a silly metric.
- happyopossum 23d agoThe watch gets worse battery life without a phone - it offloads a ton of stuff to your phone via low power Bluetooth when the phone is nearby…
- kccqzy 23d agoNot when you are working out. Instead, the presence of a phone means vibrating for notifications.
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- vavooom 23d agoI can't imagine not having a Garmin watch! Battery life and ability to forget I have it on constantly is a main feature for me
- vrosas 23d agoThis thread is just PR people from other watch brands astroturfing.
- jotux 23d agoFunny, because literally every single apple product page gets posted as "news" to HN and every time I see one I think it's just apple marketing astroturfing. Especially since most of the product updates the last few years seem to fall into the, "BUT SHE'S GOT A NEW HAT" territory.
- microsoftedging 23d ago"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data."
- r0fl 23d agoThat was my same thought! Brands I have never heard of that can't make a call, send messages or add a reminder popping up like they invented sliced bread. We get it, some people don't want to charge a watch even though they have to regularly charge their phone, headphones, laptop and maybe car. Such a weird flex that a watch lasts an extra few days, who cares?! Charge it while you shower and you're good to go
- tencentshill 23d agoThose are Apple-imposed limitations. The EU just forced them to open that part up recently.
- xur17 23d agoI think it's 2 different end-consumers. Apple targets "watch on my arm", garmin targets fitness tracker that happens to do a few watch things (notifications, payments, some limited messaging).
- xp84 22d ago> Brands I have never heard of that can't make a call, send messages or add a reminder The fact that these are your top 3 reasons to consider Apple Watch as the only brand to own speaks volumes about why monopolists shouldn't be allowed to keep APIs private indefinitely, the way Apple has with every API the Watch uses. I'm pretty sure every API that smartwatches have access to on iOS were introduced before the Apple Watch was a product. In other words, Apple arrested the progress of all other smartwatches for everyone on the iOS platform in 2015 so that they (and their fans) can smugly tout all these exclusives. (I'd add to your list the 'make my phone beep' feature, which is the main reason my whole family owns Apple Watches.)
- hakunin 23d agoI think Apple Watch is a great device for wearing to gym, to sleep, and somewhat during the day + occasional quick text reply maybe, and otherwise forgetting all about it, because the true value lies in what's being collected in the Health app. Stop trying to do things on it imo. Maybe there are a couple of useful things you can do, or if you're a runner, maybe you can leave your phone at home. I don't have these use cases, but it's valuable to me even without them. My recommendation is: buy the cheapest material one every few years. I only ever had 2 and 5 (upgraded due to always on screen), and am considering to finally upgrade to 12.
- the_sleaze_ 23d agoI ditched the screen and got a band with health metrics on it. Its tiny and comfy, no screens, only a wakeup buzz in the morning when I'm most able to wake apparently. Battery lasts maybe a week? Been great. Best of all no advertisements pinging me every few hours.
- hakunin 23d agoI wouldn't mind this (a ring is another option), but 1) you can disable notifications, which I tend to do and 2) the problem is that all independent experiments keep claiming that almost everything is inaccurate out there, and Apple Watch is one of the few surprisingly accurate ones, as compared to real medical equipment.
- throwuxiytayq 23d ago> Best of all no advertisements pinging me every few hours. Skill issue. The first thing anyone should do when they get a smart watch is disable all notifications. It's so easy to do and it makes the experience so much better. It's completely backwards that notifications are opt out. Sadly, I've never seen anyone change their defaults.
- doctorpangloss 23d agoI don't know. Apple marketing has been really effective at this health thing. Whereas, studies of continuous monitoring of eg heart with even better sensors and higher risk populations have shown conclusively no improvement in health outcomes.
- corvad 23d agoWanted to look at the study's data, but the link seems to be broken. https://www.apple.com/HRAccuracy/ https://www.apple.com/HRAccuracy/
- jann 23d agoIt works fine now.
- adithyassekhar 23d agoMy left wrist had formed an indent where I wore my se3. It was not worn tight, I tried different straps. In 6 months it looks like the tissue underneath has mostly moved away. I can feel my bone when I touch it. My right arm by contrast looks full like a regular arm. Looked up apple watch indent reddit and I saw much more serious cases after years of use. I’ve worn a samsung watch for a year it didn’t leave a mark, casio watches, none. Until apple fixes that weird dome shape never wearing one again. That watch is staying in the box it came in. Edit: There seems to be people promoting other brands in this thread. Just want to make clear I do not recommend the samsung one either. Don’t want to be labelled as such. Just get a regular watch. Wear it when you go outside and take it off when inside. You were never using the mostly inaccurate health data anyway.
- aurareturn 23d agoDo you wear it to sleep as well?
- adithyassekhar 23d agoYes I fell for the collect all data trap. I wore it around 18 hrs at most. Honestly don’t think its worth it. I don’t know what to do with all the data it collects. Doesn’t even have good watch faces to tell the time atleast. Find my phone was useful though.
- aurareturn 23d agoI wear mine everyday but I always take it off at night. No problems with dent. I also don’t wear it tight unless I’m exercising.
- ValentineC 21d agoI rotate my watch between wrists so the skin gets some rest. Left wrist in the day, right wrist while I'm sleeping.
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- ProfessorLayton 23d agoThe audio note taking feature is extremely off-putting to me and can't believe it was so prominently showcased. It's made even worse by the fact that only the newest watches support this, but their external designs are unchanged from past ones, so there's no way to tell who's always listening to everything (I have an Ultra 2, likely my last one). Is this something most people want?? At the very least I'd appreciate a notification like the unknown airtag thing to tell me I'm being eavesdropped.
- jjcob 23d agoI wonder if this feature will make people wary of Apple watch wearers.
- arrowleaf 23d agoI don't know if this will be the common reaction, but after seeing this I've made a mental note to not discuss anything private with anyone wearing an Apple Watch. Makes me suspicious of iPhones, too, after years of defending them and saying that 'technology is always listening' is a silly conspiracy
- tpmoney 23d ago“Always listening” in the way people have been conspiratorially claiming your phone is listening to show you ads is silly. Always listening in that the owner could run an application that could be recording them and you on the other hand has been a possibility since pretty much day one.
- matthewfcarlson 23d agoThat's a good point, anyone with a smart phone could trivial have a voice recorder going all day and run it through whisper
- gumby271 23d agoIt will make me as wary as I am around people that wear those little AI notetaker/recorders, so, very. At least with those it's a single use device that you can spot, now any Apple Watch could be listening, fun!
- tills13 23d agoThe best thing I ever did was buy an e-paper display watch (pebble) which lasts weeks not hours.
- socalgal2 23d agothe best thing I ever did was get rid of my collection of 41 watches and stop wearing one. my phone already has the time. I don't need a watch
- stevekemp 22d agoWatches are fashion, for most people, rather than a necessity. That said there are definitely days when I wander out of the house with a watch and no phone. Fewer these days as I use an app on my phone to pay for bus/tram/train fares, but its still nice to be able to do things without the need for a phone.
- jjcob 23d agoLooks like Apple Watch Series 12 still doesn't have dual frequency GPS. Makes it a hard sell for someone who wants to use it as a running watch.
- kccqzy 23d agoAs much as I hate to say it, the most accurate GPS in a watch is the new Pixel Watch from Google, and its accuracy comes from uploading the GPS signal to Google to do building-aware post processing using Google’s database of worldwide buildings to solve the multi-path issue, plus DGNSS. Simply having dual frequency isn’t enough when you run on the streets of New York City. With Google’s solution, it can even detect which side of the sidewalk you are on while running. I’m just not aware of any method that can do this without uploading your data to the cloud.
- piperswe 23d agoThere's the Japanese approach of deploying a dense cluster of satellites above one geographical area (QZSS), but of course that only works in the areas those satellites are above.
- thoughtpalette 22d agoBeen using Suunto Run for about a year. Would have switched back if it had dual-freq GPS. It makes a huge difference for more accurate pacing.
- bstsb 23d agooh come on, i bought my series 11 last week! i'm going to miss out on all those amazing new features, like... an improved heart rate variability measurement
- mikestew 22d agoYou've got 14 days to return it, at least in the U. S.
- juancn 23d agoI wish they would make one without all the health crap. Drop the sensors and add more battery. I only really care about a few things (besides telling the time): - notifications - unlocking a Mac on proximity - Apple Pay - alarms - skipping a song I couldn't care less about all the health sensing stuff, I have to take it out when I work out because it's either in the way or would break.
- Grombobulous 23d agoThat’s where you just get the SE on the cheap and don’t use the health stuff. The battery life isn’t an issue, especially for the kind of light use you describe. Charge it when you sleep.
- akmarinov 23d agoI’m in Europe with an Ultra 2 There’s no chance we get the AI features so those don’t factor in at all I guess it’s a bit more frequent sensors for the rest of the world? Not very compelling to upgrade.
- nkotov 23d agoI wish they made it stupid thin. I wear my Whoop everyday, even sleep with it on. I could never do the same with an Apple Watch due to it's size but also due to the notification anxiety.
- stetrain 23d agoI think they really need a separate product that can have no screen or a minimal screen and ditches the need for app compatibility. Just selling the Apple Fitness features without the screen for apps would provide a lot of value and let them play with form factors and lower price points.
- xp84 23d agoI have a $20 smart fitness watch from Amazon which I use for sleep tracking, though it's a pretty capable watch. Much smaller than an Apple Watch and the battery lasts like 10 days on a charge. It connects to Apple Health and puts the heart rate / fitness / steps / sleep data in there. If it could do the "make my phone beep" feature I'd probably switch to it as my main watch. But of course that's Apple exclusive proprietary :(
- simonebrunozzi 23d agoYou can remove all notifications. I have done so with all my devices since ~15 years ago. It's incredibly refreshing. When I see others reacting monkey-style to any notification or vibration from their phone or watch, I secretly smile inside.
- lionkor 22d agoSame here, but I want to add that you can easily do this for all apps BUT one or two. For example, I have my messaging and personal emails allowed to send me notifications, because almost all messages I get there are important and usually urgent enough (and rare enough, or it's my partner, so either way it's not annoying).
- ck2 23d agothey keep doubling down on HRV metrics except optical HRV at the wrist is garbage it cannot even measure when there is any movement you'd think someone would come up with the technology to use the skin contact as a single lead ECG without requiring a second contact point by the other arm (or leg) guess that's a generation or two away suunto has the right idea with their tiny movesense ECG and it's even open-source
- mchusma 23d agoI was actually quite impressed with the AI note-taking and other features, and I could see myself using them, so I did like that. With health, I really wish Apple would truly lean into health...go nuts and try to become effectively a super primary care provider. Integrate with blood tracking, automated diagnostics, something much cooler. The problem with these kind of wearables today is this is just not very actionable. You have this data, and nobody ever really looks at it. "You had a bad night sleep, maybe sleep more." Yeah no kidding. I want it to say: "Hey we noticed this trend, it could be indicative of X, we recommend Y test. Would you like us to send it to you within 2 hours so you can get more data?"
- symkat 23d ago> The problem with these kind of wearables today is this is just not very actionable. I got the ultra 2 from Costco in the window of time where it still had the active o2 sensor. It told me I probably had sleep apnea and to bring a print out of its chart to my primary care physician. That became a referral to an ENT and that became a referral for a sleep study. Turns out I had sleep apnea. What was really surprising to me -- I was the first person both my primary doctor and the ENT saw who showed up with "my apple watch said I might have sleep apnea." I've had a CPAP for about 10 months now and it's dramatically improved my sleep.
- nanook 23d agoIt seems absolutely ridiculous to have to recharge a watch everyday and I've read sleep tracking on the apple watch is suboptimal. I own a Withings Scanwatch 2 (and owned a nokia steel hr before that) and can confidently say it is just enough smart watch for me.
- SirMaster 23d agoDo you wear your watch in the shower? Perhaps you don't take daily showers, but I just put my watch on the charger when I shower and that's all I ever need to charge it 99% of the time.
- cael450 23d agoHonestly, the killer smartwatch feature for me is being able to quickly click a button to find my iPhone. Everything else I use it for feels like I'm just trying to justify spending hundreds of dollars on it. I record all my workouts and my sleep patterns etc., but I never use that data for anything. I wish I could buy a $10 digital watch that also had a "find my iPhone" button.
- maratc 23d agoCasio WSB1000 is probably the cheapest with phone pinging ability, but it's about $40.
- ksec 23d agoI am looking forward to 3rd party testing on most accurate heart rate. Because I have both Series 11 and Google Fitbit Air and the Air is so much better in everything, from accuracy, when to track and display of information. I just wish they made a band without all the hassle. I don't use my Watch for anything other than Stop watch, Alarm Clock and Health Tracking. I will try the Audio note taking, although my current Boss constantly lie and deny she have said something I am not sure how useful will this feature be.
- saxenaabhi 23d agoI have had many fitbits, but for my mom I purchased an Apple watch because it had sleep apnea notifications. I think that's essential for almost everyone. I can't imagine why google would skip such a critical feature in Health Tracking.
- m01 23d agoIt'd be more accurate to make claims compared to the smartwatches listed in the study, than claiming it's the most accurate on the market. > Participants wore an Apple Watch on one wrist, and a comparative wrist-based device on the other, while using a Polar H10 ECG based chest strap as reference. Wrist assignment was randomized such that Apple Watch was worn on the dominant hand approximately 50% of the time. Wrist-based devices studied included Apple Watch Series 12, Garmin Forerunner 970, Google Pixel Watch 4, Huawei Watch 5, Samsung Galaxy Watch 8, and WHOOP 5. Oura Ring 5 was also worn on an index finger, per the manufacturer's stated best practices3 source, via the footnote: https://www.apple.com/HRAccuracy/ https://www.apple.com/HRAccuracy/
- spike021 23d agoI really just want an Apple version of the new Fitbit Air. I had an Apple Watch for five years. Battery didn't even last a day. I realized generally I have my phone or laptop with me all the time anyway, I don't need a watch with weather or app widgets. So in June I bought the fitbit air and it's great. Battery life lasts about 6-7 days. No distracting screen. MUCH more comfortable to sleep with since it has no buttons and a smaller form factor. If Apple made their own version of the Air but with Apple Pay I would switch back over in a heartbeat.
- wang_li 23d agoApple needs to move the health data storage, at least optionally, to the home pod/apple tv. My phone is my main interface, but it's not the only interface. And many of the devices that interface with the health app are not mobile. My blood pressure monitor, my bathroom scale. Test results from my doctor. And so on. These should be synced/stored on either my home device and exposed through an app on my phone/desktop/laptop.
- d4rkp4ttern 23d agoEvery single AW I’ve owned has this weird problem: when I go for a run it often doesn’t show my HR even after 10 mins, sometimes even longer. Super irritating.
- dangoor 23d agoSeries 12 may finally fix that for you. They mention that the new heart rate sensors handle motion better.
- NDlurker 23d agoVery creepy. I don't like it
- Ecstatify 23d agoApple killed support for three generations of Apple Watch hardware with its latest OS update: Series 6, Series 7, Series 8, and the original Apple Watch Ultra. So much for its commitment to the environment, perfectly capable hardware is being sent to the bin. There's literally no new features on the watch. Adding in AI nonsense.
- thih9 23d agoWhy sent to the bin? The devices still work. I recently used my series 3 for a couple of weeks and it worked surprisingly well.
- Ecstatify 20d agoApplication developers generally don’t support outdated or unsupported OS versions. It’s only a matter of time before updates stop being released or apps start to break.
- JKCalhoun 23d agoI thought it was understood that Apple gives hardware 5 years. If the watch still works with the current OS on it, what's the issue?
- grougnax 22d agoApps won't work anymore.
- dansquizsoft 23d agoAm super salty about them killing support for the original Apple Watch Ultra. I, along with many others, bought it on launch day as both an Apple tragic / early adopter and to support what I thought was going to be an exciting new platform. Instead we barely got a new feature over the 4 years since it launched, and now its been killed (from a software support pov) way ahead of schedule of the vast majority of other Apple devices. For shame.
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- loumf 23d agoThere are legal prohibitions against one-sided recording in some states (for example, mine). Am I liable if my watch starts doing this? Or is Apple if it does this by default without even my consent? I have no idea if the law cares about the privacy features Apple mentioned (no accessible audio, no speaker ID) if the audio was clearly captured at some point.
- encomiast 23d agoMaybe it's just a general fatigue from AI, notifications, microphones, and cameras everywhere, but I'm pretty sure my next watch will be something from Germany or Switzerland containing springs and gears.
- zaken 23d agoI went from an EV to my first manual car earlier this year for similar reasons I think
- speedgoose 23d agoYes but a Garmin is an upgrade.
- smlacy 23d agoOr Japan? Having digital accuracy and 10 year battery life is pretty nice.
- Frost1x 23d agoDon’t forget Japan! There’s some great Japanese mechanical watches. I’m a fan of the Seiko spring drive movement.
- lionkor 22d agoI can really recommend an automatic watch. Go to a jewelry store, try some on in the below 300 euro category (like, 10 euro to 300 euro range), and get one. Suddenly you can leave your phone somewhere, and not panic-check the time on it and get distracted. And they look nice, feel nice. Some of them even have a glass/crystal back, so you can watch the mechanism, relentlessly ticking on. Get an analog automatic watch. It doesn't need to be second-accurate. Everyone else is keeping track of nanoseconds, you'll be okay not knowing.
- diego_moita 23d ago> Apple Watch Series 12 continues to offer up to 24 hours of everyday battery life and now offers up to 10 hours of battery life during an outdoor workout — 25 percent more than the previous model. Are they really bragging about this pathetic performance? The charge in my Pebble lasts 20 days. How can you sleep with a charge that lasts that short?
- throwatdem12311 23d agoWhen I saw the part where the guy records the waitress and then re-reading the transcript. FFS just talk to them like a regular human being. If you did this to me I would just be supremely grossed out. I’m way too unc for this. I’m out. I’m officially done with “tech”.
- securingsincity 23d agoHad Apple not made the transcript/rewind feature a top line feature but put it down in an accessibility feature, I wonder if it would have changed the perception. I'm actually surprised they didn't do this as this is how they tend to test features before wider rollout.
- jjallen 23d agoAnyone know how/why this one can take so many more HRV measurements? I mean the other ones can. What makes this one take more often? Guessing they are just setting it to do more. This is one thing that really annoys me is that it will go 4-6 hours without taking any measurements. When I am sitting down working etc. I tried Google”s new Fitbit for a couple days but it only does them at night!!
- mrheosuper 23d agoI sometime joke we would oneday wear an always-on recorder and be happy about that. Looklike today is that day
- monster_truck 23d agoThe only thing I've ever wanted is an apple watch that's thinner than the first one, my wrists are big enough I don't need a chonker. I don't care what time it is anyways
- phazeedae 22d agoMoved from my ultra 2, to a simply casio gshock 5601u, could not be happier, I am so sick and tired of all the notifications, stats, blah blah blah following me all over, from my macbook, iphone, that I just don't need it on my watch as well. I just don't care anymore about tracking everything and uploading to strava, or whever, and this comes from someone that, have over 100k km's logged on strava. I know the vast majority of people love it, and I love stats as well, but all the connected devices, is just getting too much, I am activily trying to go more simple, offline, outside of work.
- Someone 22d agoFTA: “Apple Watch Series 12 now offers the most accurate step tracking of any smartwatch.12 The S11 chip also enables the brand-new Steps complication, so users can track their steps in real time, right from their watch face” That must mean they’re very confident about the accuracy. I look forward to reviewers trying to beat their detection model.
- smusamashah 22d ago> measuring heart rate every five seconds Pixel watch measures heart rate every second.
- dragochat 22d ago...still not "getting" smart wearable, and probably not gonna get one until someone figures out good _wireless_ monitoring of _blood-pressure_ and _glucose_ like wtf could be useful in doing with those puny impotent sensors packed in right now?!
- roody15 22d agoI don’t like the Apple Watch from a charging perspective all models. For me a watch should be less phone wannabe and more functional with a 5-7 day charge. All the Apple Watches I have had last about 1 day which to me is just kind of annoying. To me it feels the device tries to do too much that just isn’t needed and is easier with a phone. However they sell well so I must be in the minority.
- nfw2 22d agoLeading with "most accurate heart rate sensor" is a choice
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