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Already a reality in mainland China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc.
by mahrain 24d ago
Already a reality in mainland China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc.
- lazycatjumping 24d agoI've been to many places in Italy that have scary much CCTV.
- mschuster91 24d agoA bunch of CCTV is one thing. If the police have to come and knock on each business owner's door to ask "hey, you got some footage from 2 days ago, someone was shot in the area", that's fine with me. But what's not fine is that capability in a fully automated, fully remotely accessible way, because that openly invites abuse of all kinds.
- f6v 24d agoWait till you hear about the UK.
- edot 24d agoLet's think about the first two letters of CCTV and what that entails.
- chinathrow 24d agoPoint is, CC as for closed circuit, is no longer the key here - the circuit is very much open and in the hands of providers, governments and tech providers.
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- QuantumNomad_ 24d agoThanks, I’ll keep the graffiti and vandalism.
- cucumber3732842 24d ago>China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc And very little ability for anyone or any group of people from any walk of life to resist getting screwed by the government if the government chooses to screw them. The long term cost of putting locks on doors and bars on windows and all the other things that need to be done to deter small scale crime is peanuts compared to the cost of giving up the ability to disobey the government and work counter to the government with a low likelihood of being caught so long as one's profile is low. I know that by putting it so plainly I'm gonna piss off a lot of people and draw the ire of many who want to see their favorite rules enforces with an iron fist at low cost. I don't care. I have judged those people to have bad ideas and bad morals and they are fundamentally bad people so long as they maintain them.
- MSFT_Edging 24d ago> And very little ability for anyone or any group of people from any walk of life to resist getting screwed by the government if the government chooses to screw them. Sorry to break it to you but if the Feds in the US have it out for you, it won't matter how squeaky clean your record is. They'll fuck you up and ruin your life without batting an eye.
- mastermage 24d agoWhich is a great argument for Less Surveilance and Overreach.
- MSFT_Edging 24d agoBig time. The harder the feds have to work to ruin someone's life the better. The more power granted, the heavier the collar and chain should be.
- mastermage 23d ago100% oversight commitees should be regularly conveening over their actions. And these Oversight Comitees should not be Politicians but random people.
- phoghed 24d agoYeah but when our AI overlords rise up soon we don’t want to have this ready to hand over to them.
- quelqueivan 24d agoI think quite a few tech bros would want their own Samaritan. It wouldn't be "theirs" for very long, but I don't think that dampens their desire.
- ncr100 24d agoGraffiti is amazing. It is protest.
- GlacierFox 24d agoCould I come and spray paint the front of your house? In protest of course.
- pmdr 24d agoAs long as it's a mostly peaceful prostest, you're also allowed to set a few cars on fire and loot local businesses.
- kg 24d agoWhen I put the two sides on the scale - the things being protested and the damage done by protesters - typically it's very easy for me to write off a couple burned cars or broken windows, even if I'm not a fan of broken windows or burned cars. Because typically these protests in the US are over things like reckless killings.
- budman1 24d agoAll of the US protests in the last 10 years have been mild. Sure a couple of Waymos get burned up, but they are easy to capture :) Get all those folks marching, you aren't going to get good decisions out of everyone. But the expression of the people is hard for those in power to ignore.
- ceejayoz 24d agoAs long as you say "I feared for my life", you're apparently also allowed to shoot random civilians if you're a cop. Which is kinda why people are upset enough to set shit on fire.
- pmdr 24d agoI was merely hinting at protests being called peaceful by the media when they clearly weren't. Not saying they weren't justifiably so.
- vaylian 24d ago> which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc. and a lot of human rights violations
- gustavus 24d agoThat's only for bad people who don't agree with the right thoughts and the right thinking. Don't worry as long as you don't disagree with the government you'll be fine citizen, after all you wouldn't want to disagree with the government would you?
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- quelqueivan 24d agoThere probably was very little street crime, graffiti, and vandalism in the German Democratic Republic and in the USSR. And there very likely is little street crime in North Korea. If the benefits can be had at too high a price, that doesn't make the price worth paying.
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- gizajob 24d agoOne person’s graffiti and vandalism is another persons freedom of artistic expression. Like how music magically turns into “noise” when someone buys an apartment next to a lively gig venue.
- maxerickson 24d agoThere's very little of those things in most places. It would be nice if there were less, but that change shouldn't come at a significant cost. As an example, the FBI has data on $10-20 billion in property crimes per year in the US. Wow, that's a lot. Of course, there's probably $5-$10 trillion dollars of personal property.
- budman1 24d agomy first time in Zurich. ton's of graffiti seen while leaving the airport. if they have it, everyone does.
- wartywhoa23 24d agoThe Already and The Whatabout, the two pillars of the Temple of Incrementalists.
- micromacrofoot 24d agomainland China is very big, what's the coverage like or are you just making things up
- wesleywt 24d agoYes but can you voice your displeasure against the government if they target you? I prefer crime, grafitti and vandalism
- folkrav 24d agoAlso a country with regular human rights violations, virtually no political, ideological, press, assembly, worker or economical freedom, heavy censorship, etc.
- euroderf 24d agoYa gotta wonder how pervasive facial recognition affects the espionage trade.
- illithid0 24d agoI'm sure the Uyghers will find this reassuring.
- DarmokTanagra 24d ago[dead]