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Sadly that mess had a political component, any attempt to regulate US big tech results in howls from over the Atlantic. Frankly, I'd prefer it if we just let t

Sadly that mess had a political component, any attempt to regulate US big tech results in howls from over the Atlantic. Frankly, I'd prefer it if we just let them howl and said fuck it more but it's probably a good job I'm not making those decisions (and in honesty the picture is complex for companies that size/the politics).

kvuj 1mo ago
From the article, it seems more about chinese brands, no? > Some records even refer customers to Temu or AliExpress for spare parts and repair instructions. > But even for products that are technically compliant, the listed weblink still rarely offers a direct path to parts prices. For major brands such as Apple and Samsung, it can take some clicking around before you find what you need, Right to Repair says.
WarmWash 1mo ago
Ironically the fact that the howls need to come from the other side of the Atlantic, rather than having any domestically, should tell anyone all they need to know about the situation.
- noir_lord 1mo ago
  Don't disagree but the results are impossible to know from the US side, politicians have to balance everything and decide whether it's worth the political capital. Not like it's the only issue in US/UK relations these days either. That's the situation whether we like it or not.
- oblio 1mo ago
  > Ironically the fact that the howls need to come from the other side of the Atlantic, rather than having any domestically, should tell anyone all they need to know about the situation. Europeans by and large don't care about American companies these days. They use American software products because frequently there are no alternatives. And most of the news about them are negative.
  - WarmWash 1mo ago
    >They use American software products because frequently there are no alternatives Hint hint
    - oblio 1mo ago
      Hint hint to what? South Korea is a very dynamic, tech heavy country and it hasn't managed to push any software product as a market leader. The EU is bigger, but it's fractured, so functionally it's basically 2-3x South Korea in terms of "software power". And that's not enough to compete with the much larger US juggernaut. Only China has managed to hold its own by simply banning US software all together. I'm actually all in favor of the EU banning all American software. Fairly sure that after a huge initial tumble a healthy EU software market would thrive. Edit: I need to brace myself, the Americans are waking up :-)))
      - mitxela 1mo ago
        Hint hint, if you're European, wake up and make some good software!
        oblio 1mo ago
        The EU needs a real single digital market with single patents, copyright, IP licensing. The EU also needs easier financing of risky ventures, probably with tax incentives associated. The EU needs specific regulation to facilitate accelerated scaling across all its countries. This last part is the hardest to do because by definition startups are challenges to big and rich incumbents. I would just ban US software companies like China did (I'd obviously also ban Chinese software companies, too). The resulting chaos would end up with some pretty solid EU software companies, the know how is there.
        mitxela 1mo ago
        You can't have good regulations and also have all the world's evil billionaires pouring their money in. You get to pick one of those.
- 8note 1mo ago
  this is the first time ive heard the europeans indicted over not wanting ai child porn, and that the US is better than Europe for trying to tackle it privacy rights, standardization of cables, and monopoly busting are also pretty good things. the real question is why americans havent pushed back against their new feudal lords to carve out the same rights they did against the old ones
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  - WarmWash 1mo ago
    Might as well ban computers then, no?
    - rfrey 1mo ago
      Child porn is an unavoidable consequence of having computers? Is that what you meant to say? I doubt it but can't find another reading of your comment.
      - WarmWash 1mo ago
        Right, I'm just as confused about it as the person I was replying to. The connection is so detached it doesn't make sense..
        mitxela 1mo ago
        It's relevant because the thing X was getting punished for was releasing huge quantities of AI child porn of real children.
herbst 1mo ago
There seems to be a very common idea why the EU is failing dramatically with these ideas that I didnt seem to understand. Knowing it has a US political context suddenly makes everything a little less weird.
mitxela 1mo ago
Would that happen before or after weaning Europeans off American tech dopamine?

kvuj 1mo ago

From the article, it seems more about chinese brands, no? > Some records even refer customers to Temu or AliExpress for spare parts and repair instructions. > But even for products that are technically compliant, the listed weblink still rarely offers a direct path to parts prices. For major brands such as Apple and Samsung, it can take some clicking around before you find what you need, Right to Repair says.

WarmWash 1mo ago

Ironically the fact that the howls need to come from the other side of the Atlantic, rather than having any domestically, should tell anyone all they need to know about the situation.

noir_lord 1mo ago
Don't disagree but the results are impossible to know from the US side, politicians have to balance everything and decide whether it's worth the political capital. Not like it's the only issue in US/UK relations these days either. That's the situation whether we like it or not.
oblio 1mo ago
> Ironically the fact that the howls need to come from the other side of the Atlantic, rather than having any domestically, should tell anyone all they need to know about the situation. Europeans by and large don't care about American companies these days. They use American software products because frequently there are no alternatives. And most of the news about them are negative.
- WarmWash 1mo ago
  >They use American software products because frequently there are no alternatives Hint hint
  - oblio 1mo ago
    Hint hint to what? South Korea is a very dynamic, tech heavy country and it hasn't managed to push any software product as a market leader. The EU is bigger, but it's fractured, so functionally it's basically 2-3x South Korea in terms of "software power". And that's not enough to compete with the much larger US juggernaut. Only China has managed to hold its own by simply banning US software all together. I'm actually all in favor of the EU banning all American software. Fairly sure that after a huge initial tumble a healthy EU software market would thrive. Edit: I need to brace myself, the Americans are waking up :-)))
    - mitxela 1mo ago
      Hint hint, if you're European, wake up and make some good software!
      - oblio 1mo ago
        The EU needs a real single digital market with single patents, copyright, IP licensing. The EU also needs easier financing of risky ventures, probably with tax incentives associated. The EU needs specific regulation to facilitate accelerated scaling across all its countries. This last part is the hardest to do because by definition startups are challenges to big and rich incumbents. I would just ban US software companies like China did (I'd obviously also ban Chinese software companies, too). The resulting chaos would end up with some pretty solid EU software companies, the know how is there.
        mitxela 1mo ago
        You can't have good regulations and also have all the world's evil billionaires pouring their money in. You get to pick one of those.
8note 1mo ago
this is the first time ive heard the europeans indicted over not wanting ai child porn, and that the US is better than Europe for trying to tackle it privacy rights, standardization of cables, and monopoly busting are also pretty good things. the real question is why americans havent pushed back against their new feudal lords to carve out the same rights they did against the old ones
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- WarmWash 1mo ago
  Might as well ban computers then, no?
  - rfrey 1mo ago
    Child porn is an unavoidable consequence of having computers? Is that what you meant to say? I doubt it but can't find another reading of your comment.
    - WarmWash 1mo ago
      Right, I'm just as confused about it as the person I was replying to. The connection is so detached it doesn't make sense..
      - mitxela 1mo ago
        It's relevant because the thing X was getting punished for was releasing huge quantities of AI child porn of real children.

herbst 1mo ago

There seems to be a very common idea why the EU is failing dramatically with these ideas that I didnt seem to understand. Knowing it has a US political context suddenly makes everything a little less weird.

mitxela 1mo ago

Would that happen before or after weaning Europeans off American tech dopamine?