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THere's also archive.today who does great user-directed archiving. We don't appreciate this infrastructure some random guy runs enough. It's annoying how often

THere's also archive.today who does great user-directed archiving. We don't appreciate this infrastructure some random guy runs enough. It's annoying how often archive.org blocks sites but they both complement each other very well. https://liberapay.com/archiveis/donate https://liberapay.com/archiveis/donate https://coindrop.to/archive https://coindrop.to/archive When finding archive.today's Monero donation address just now, I had to use archive.org because donatemonero.org [1] is down. https://web.archive.org/web/20260526080016/https://donatemonero.org/project/archive-is.html https://web.archive.org/web/20260526080016/https://donatemon...

qingcharles 1mo ago
Absolutely deserves a donation too. How it keeps running is beyond me, especially as he/she/they keep adding more paywall bypasses on the backend.
- esskay 1mo ago
  It doesnt really deserve anything given they used the site to attack people. See the comment above yours.
  - vachina 1mo ago
    I’d gladly join his/her botnet. archive.is is the only archive that acts like an archive.
    - esskay 1mo ago
      That would be pretty crappy of you given he was attacking an innocent 3rd party. Morals be damned i guess.
      - DaSHacka 1mo ago
        "innocent" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement. Does it change the calculus at all if this "innocent" person was trying to dox the operator for nothing more than satisfying a personal whim?
      - mitxela 1mo ago
        You mean the guy who was trying to get the archive's owner prison time, right? Doesn't seem very innocent to me.
LeoPanthera 1mo ago
Um. You mean the same site that uses its captcha page to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with, and was banned from use on Wikipedia because the owner was modifying the archived pages? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_Gyrovague_and_Wikipedia's_restrictions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_G... I don't think we should be supporting this random guy, no.
- andai 1mo ago
  Well then another guy should provide a technically equivalent and morally superior service ;)
  - markasoftware 1mo ago
    I mean, lots of other archive.* sites exist and do the same thing minus problematic behavior, such as archive.is, archive.oh (though maybe some are operated by the same individual...)
    - plorg 1mo ago
      Are any of those not run by the archive.today guy? That site has like a dozen aliases.
    - Cider9986 1mo ago
      Wikipedia links these as the mirrors. archive.today archive.fo archive.is archive.li archive.md archive.ph archive.vn archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion
    - topato 1mo ago
      Haha all of those are .today aliases. Not sure the hate over him ddosing the guy doxxing him. .today’s paywall circumvention is also why miscellaneous groups have tried to report him to the FBI over planted CSAM material, among other horrible harassment. I think we should all give him a second chance for the huge amount of time, both before and after the stupid and short lived ddos incident, that he has dedicated to archiving. His identity must be secretive, as he has already drawn the ire of many powers that be, so… I personally think the ddos incident was justified… and I’m glad my bandwidth helped in any way, frankly. Some people seem to really want to portray him as some shady evil bad guy, and after all the hit jobs against him in the past year or two, I really wonder who these anti-archive.today people actually are and what they’re motivations are (besides money).
botanical 1mo ago
I also think archive.today is superior to web.archive.org as it breaks less when archiving sources. It's a shame Wikipedia blacklisted it now as an archive source.
- DaSHacka 1mo ago
  They also don't arbitrarily nuke entire domains (with legal content) from the archive like archive.org does.
  - Hamuko 1mo ago
    They just arbitrarily nuke entire countries and arbitrarily edit the content that the archives contain.
    - mitxela 1mo ago
      [citation needed]
mitxela 1mo ago
Yeah but they're a sanctioned terrorist organisation, so if you donate to them your bank account will be frozen and you'll go to jail. Edit: of course you should donate Monero

qingcharles 1mo ago

Absolutely deserves a donation too. How it keeps running is beyond me, especially as he/she/they keep adding more paywall bypasses on the backend.

esskay 1mo ago
It doesnt really deserve anything given they used the site to attack people. See the comment above yours.
- vachina 1mo ago
  I’d gladly join his/her botnet. archive.is is the only archive that acts like an archive.
  - esskay 1mo ago
    That would be pretty crappy of you given he was attacking an innocent 3rd party. Morals be damned i guess.
    - DaSHacka 1mo ago
      "innocent" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement. Does it change the calculus at all if this "innocent" person was trying to dox the operator for nothing more than satisfying a personal whim?
    - mitxela 1mo ago
      You mean the guy who was trying to get the archive's owner prison time, right? Doesn't seem very innocent to me.

LeoPanthera 1mo ago

Um. You mean the same site that uses its captcha page to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with, and was banned from use on Wikipedia because the owner was modifying the archived pages? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_Gyrovague_and_Wikipedia's_restrictions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today#2026_attack_on_G... I don't think we should be supporting this random guy, no.

andai 1mo ago
Well then another guy should provide a technically equivalent and morally superior service ;)
- markasoftware 1mo ago
  I mean, lots of other archive.* sites exist and do the same thing minus problematic behavior, such as archive.is, archive.oh (though maybe some are operated by the same individual...)
  - plorg 1mo ago
    Are any of those not run by the archive.today guy? That site has like a dozen aliases.
  - Cider9986 1mo ago
    Wikipedia links these as the mirrors. archive.today archive.fo archive.is archive.li archive.md archive.ph archive.vn archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion
  - topato 1mo ago
    Haha all of those are .today aliases. Not sure the hate over him ddosing the guy doxxing him. .today’s paywall circumvention is also why miscellaneous groups have tried to report him to the FBI over planted CSAM material, among other horrible harassment. I think we should all give him a second chance for the huge amount of time, both before and after the stupid and short lived ddos incident, that he has dedicated to archiving. His identity must be secretive, as he has already drawn the ire of many powers that be, so… I personally think the ddos incident was justified… and I’m glad my bandwidth helped in any way, frankly. Some people seem to really want to portray him as some shady evil bad guy, and after all the hit jobs against him in the past year or two, I really wonder who these anti-archive.today people actually are and what they’re motivations are (besides money).

botanical 1mo ago

I also think archive.today is superior to web.archive.org as it breaks less when archiving sources. It's a shame Wikipedia blacklisted it now as an archive source.

DaSHacka 1mo ago
They also don't arbitrarily nuke entire domains (with legal content) from the archive like archive.org does.
- Hamuko 1mo ago
  They just arbitrarily nuke entire countries and arbitrarily edit the content that the archives contain.
  - mitxela 1mo ago
    [citation needed]

mitxela 1mo ago

Yeah but they're a sanctioned terrorist organisation, so if you donate to them your bank account will be frozen and you'll go to jail. Edit: of course you should donate Monero