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NetBSD 9.5 released and EOL for NetBSD-9

151 points by jaypatelani 29d ago

jmclnx 29d ago
I need to get around and upgrade an old mini-tower with an AMD-586 w/512MB memory from 9.3 to 11.0, I may wait for 11.1.
- soupbowl 29d ago
  What do you use that low spec machine for?
  - jmclnx 29d ago
    It is a backup machine for important files. Plus testing items I develop to see how they run in limited environments.
    - soupbowl 29d ago
      Cool, was just curious.
    - 0dayz 29d ago
      Just wondering how does that fair over a vm or container that has similar limitations?
      - jmclnx 28d ago
        I do not like using VMs and containers, I do like FreeBSD jails. Plus my main machine is around 12 or 13 years old, so I avoid VMs on it. But I saw somewhere someone is working on a jail like item for NetBSD.
        0dayz 19d ago
        But isn't hauls practically the same thing as container it just depends on how you want the cgroup to expose itself?
    - throwaway270925 28d ago
      Interesting, whats your backup process, of you mind sharing?
3qajsh17 29d ago
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- emidln 29d ago
  If you think you can identify frontier model-generated planned and reviewed c/c++ from human-generated planned and reviewed c/c++, I've got some bad news for you. The "no slop" policy is the same as it ever was: garbage has to make it through patch code review. If an LLM wrote it rather than a human and it passes patch review, it's fine. Rejecting features or fixes because a probabilistic algorithm said "should look like this" feels a lot like rejecting c/c++ because you read Intel's docs and have a hex editor. Edit: s/like like/look like/
  - a31ahg 29d ago
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    - sigseg1v 29d ago
      Totally inaccurate comparison. Garbage dumped on the side of the road is still garbage. It's more like if someone dumped lab-grown diamonds on the side of the road that are virtually indistinguishable from mined diamonds. Someone would be happy to take them and none the wiser.
      - AdieuToLogic 29d ago
        > It's more like if someone dumped lab-grown diamonds on the side of the road that are virtually indistinguishable from mined diamonds. Equating LLM generated code to "lab-grown diamonds" is disingenuous at best. > Someone would be happy to take them and [be] none the wiser. If the quality of GenAI PRs were equivalent to those authored by experienced contributors, then there would not be as many GenAI PR bans in FOSS operating system repositories.
        emidln 29d ago
iberator 28d ago
NetBSD holds record for most supported architectures. Like 50 diffrent, while Linux like maybe 20... Oldest one: VAX780 from 1978(!!!). First 32bit xpu with mmu
- deleted 28d ago
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151 points by jaypatelani 29d ago

I need to get around and upgrade an old mini-tower with an AMD-586 w/512MB memory from 9.3 to 11.0, I may wait for 11.1.

soupbowl 29d ago
What do you use that low spec machine for?
- jmclnx 29d ago
  It is a backup machine for important files. Plus testing items I develop to see how they run in limited environments.
  - soupbowl 29d ago
    Cool, was just curious.
  - 0dayz 29d ago
    Just wondering how does that fair over a vm or container that has similar limitations?
    - jmclnx 28d ago
      I do not like using VMs and containers, I do like FreeBSD jails. Plus my main machine is around 12 or 13 years old, so I avoid VMs on it. But I saw somewhere someone is working on a jail like item for NetBSD.
      - 0dayz 19d ago
        But isn't hauls practically the same thing as container it just depends on how you want the cgroup to expose itself?
  - throwaway270925 28d ago
    Interesting, whats your backup process, of you mind sharing?

3qajsh17 29d ago

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emidln 29d ago
If you think you can identify frontier model-generated planned and reviewed c/c++ from human-generated planned and reviewed c/c++, I've got some bad news for you. The "no slop" policy is the same as it ever was: garbage has to make it through patch code review. If an LLM wrote it rather than a human and it passes patch review, it's fine. Rejecting features or fixes because a probabilistic algorithm said "should look like this" feels a lot like rejecting c/c++ because you read Intel's docs and have a hex editor. Edit: s/like like/look like/
- a31ahg 29d ago
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  - sigseg1v 29d ago
    Totally inaccurate comparison. Garbage dumped on the side of the road is still garbage. It's more like if someone dumped lab-grown diamonds on the side of the road that are virtually indistinguishable from mined diamonds. Someone would be happy to take them and none the wiser.
    - AdieuToLogic 29d ago
      > It's more like if someone dumped lab-grown diamonds on the side of the road that are virtually indistinguishable from mined diamonds. Equating LLM generated code to "lab-grown diamonds" is disingenuous at best. > Someone would be happy to take them and [be] none the wiser. If the quality of GenAI PRs were equivalent to those authored by experienced contributors, then there would not be as many GenAI PR bans in FOSS operating system repositories.
      - emidln 29d ago

iberator 28d ago

NetBSD holds record for most supported architectures. Like 50 diffrent, while Linux like maybe 20... Oldest one: VAX780 from 1978(!!!). First 32bit xpu with mmu

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