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There are many examples; k12.<state>.us is another.

by adw 28d ago

marcosdumay 28d ago
It is (or was for a long time, IDK) a strongly recommended practice from ICANN. I imagine nearly all countries to do that.
- dhosek 28d ago
  There end up being some weird edge cases where there are some countries which have both the equivalent of .co.uk but also allow registrations directly under the two-letter country code as well. .mx is one such case where most business are, e.g., costco.com.mx, but it’s also possible to register directly under .mx as well so Toyota Mexico is toyota.mx and not toyota.com.mx (the latter is registered, and ostensibly to Toyota, but the whois and nslookup records give very different results and the website doesn’t load when I try to visit it).
  - justincormack 28d ago
    uk is one example - they opened up x.uk later, and gave x.co.uk registrations first dibs.
  - dgoldstein0 28d ago
    This isn't so bad as .com.mx and .mx should be on the public suffix list then. But letting arbitrary customers take arbitrary 3 level domains, and others take 2 level domains, seems like a mistake as it's not very reasonable for every 3LD customer to put the 2LD on the public suffix list, but mixing 3LD and 2LD registrations means you can't public suffix *.name. Seems the whole idea of having both was always misguided.
eloisant 28d ago
Except nobody uses the .us tld, but pretty much every every Japanese company is on a .co.jp
- adw 28d ago
  Schools use it!
  - toast0 28d ago
    Based on my small sample of schools, all of the ones that were using locality based names under ca.us have migrated elsewhere, including to 2nd level domains under .us.
- jomar 28d ago
  > Except nobody uses the .us tld This is a bug, not a feature.
- SenHeng 28d ago
  It used to be that only Japanese corporations could register a .co.jp while anyone else anywhere could register for a .jp. So I had several .jp domains registered through Gandi.net. The issue is that .jp registered outside of a few Japanese registrars are legally not allowed to offer Whois privacy.
- ButlerianJihad 28d ago
  The .us domain should’ve been universally useful for state and municipal governments, but most of those began registering directly under .gov, and not even in an orderly hierarchy under .st.gov But that was simply the easiest way to market your website as a trusted government entity. And now nobody has ever heard of .us domains in active use.
  - ocdtrekkie 28d ago
    .us was primarily a hierarchy structure which in practice made confusing and hard to remember domain names, whereas .gov addresses hand out single domains which are generally easy to remember.
    - ButlerianJihad 27d ago
      Personally, I never saw anything confusing about city.state.us; the hierarchy was organized perfectly logically in the 3-tier jurisdictional structure that every American schoolboy knows by 3rd grade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us But your point about them being rather longer and difficult to remember stands, and the same for a .gov, which could be shorter and catchier. However amusingly, .us opened up second-level registrations 24 years ago, which means that any qualifying entity could have their name registered directly under .us, which is obviously recognizable, and also one character shorter, than a .gov registration. However, by that time, I believe that .gov had increased in stature so that registering governmental entities under .gov carried more certainty of conveying official status than anything under .us. Also sadly, QR Codes and URL shorteners today sort of obviate the need to directly register the shortest possible domain name. I don't know: I was always kind of fond of the .us hierarchy, and I'm just personally sad that it's fading away.

There are many examples; k12.<state>.us is another.

by adw 28d ago

There are many examples; k12.<state>.us is another.

It is (or was for a long time, IDK) a strongly recommended practice from ICANN. I imagine nearly all countries to do that.

dhosek 28d ago
There end up being some weird edge cases where there are some countries which have both the equivalent of .co.uk but also allow registrations directly under the two-letter country code as well. .mx is one such case where most business are, e.g., costco.com.mx, but it’s also possible to register directly under .mx as well so Toyota Mexico is toyota.mx and not toyota.com.mx (the latter is registered, and ostensibly to Toyota, but the whois and nslookup records give very different results and the website doesn’t load when I try to visit it).
- justincormack 28d ago
  uk is one example - they opened up x.uk later, and gave x.co.uk registrations first dibs.
- dgoldstein0 28d ago
  This isn't so bad as .com.mx and .mx should be on the public suffix list then. But letting arbitrary customers take arbitrary 3 level domains, and others take 2 level domains, seems like a mistake as it's not very reasonable for every 3LD customer to put the 2LD on the public suffix list, but mixing 3LD and 2LD registrations means you can't public suffix *.name. Seems the whole idea of having both was always misguided.

eloisant 28d ago

Except nobody uses the .us tld, but pretty much every every Japanese company is on a .co.jp

adw 28d ago
Schools use it!
- toast0 28d ago
  Based on my small sample of schools, all of the ones that were using locality based names under ca.us have migrated elsewhere, including to 2nd level domains under .us.
jomar 28d ago
> Except nobody uses the .us tld This is a bug, not a feature.
SenHeng 28d ago
It used to be that only Japanese corporations could register a .co.jp while anyone else anywhere could register for a .jp. So I had several .jp domains registered through Gandi.net. The issue is that .jp registered outside of a few Japanese registrars are legally not allowed to offer Whois privacy.
ButlerianJihad 28d ago
The .us domain should’ve been universally useful for state and municipal governments, but most of those began registering directly under .gov, and not even in an orderly hierarchy under .st.gov But that was simply the easiest way to market your website as a trusted government entity. And now nobody has ever heard of .us domains in active use.
- ocdtrekkie 28d ago
  .us was primarily a hierarchy structure which in practice made confusing and hard to remember domain names, whereas .gov addresses hand out single domains which are generally easy to remember.
  - ButlerianJihad 27d ago
    Personally, I never saw anything confusing about city.state.us; the hierarchy was organized perfectly logically in the 3-tier jurisdictional structure that every American schoolboy knows by 3rd grade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us But your point about them being rather longer and difficult to remember stands, and the same for a .gov, which could be shorter and catchier. However amusingly, .us opened up second-level registrations 24 years ago, which means that any qualifying entity could have their name registered directly under .us, which is obviously recognizable, and also one character shorter, than a .gov registration. However, by that time, I believe that .gov had increased in stature so that registering governmental entities under .gov carried more certainty of conveying official status than anything under .us. Also sadly, QR Codes and URL shorteners today sort of obviate the need to directly register the shortest possible domain name. I don't know: I was always kind of fond of the .us hierarchy, and I'm just personally sad that it's fading away.