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> Parents aren't allowed to bring them to school. If a parent escorts their children to school they'll be told not to. If they keep doing it they'll get a lette

> Parents aren't allowed to bring them to school. If a parent escorts their children to school they'll be told not to. If they keep doing it they'll get a letter from the school and probably a police visit. And if they continue (I never heard of it getting to this stage) they may be fined. Can't help but think that this is just swinging things in the opposite direction.

WA 23d ago
No, it’s to counteract the desire of parents dropping of their kids in front of school with their car and causing traffic jams.
- microtherion 23d ago
  Exactly. It’s a collective action problem — every car dropping off a kid incrementally endangers the kids walking to school, so if there is no enforcement whatsoever, we’d end up with everybody driving, and a situation worse than in US schools (because Swiss schools were largely not constructed with drop off zones in mind, and retrofitting them would be difficult with our land use patterns).
- neaden 23d ago
  The original comment makes it sound like you'd get a police visit for walking with your kid to school though, which is hopefully a misunderstanding.
  - jeffbee 23d ago
    In my experience the kids form a peloton walking to school but there are adults walking with the youngest such groups. E.g. this website (never been to this town, just seems representative). https://pskerzers.ch/pedibus/ https://pskerzers.ch/pedibus/
bestouff 23d ago
Sure. In a good way.
MattDaEskimo 23d ago
It'd be nice if you could back up your feelings with some reasoning. The neighborhood is safe enough and the community is cohesive enough that kids can congregate along their way to school: go to their friend's house, meet at a park, etc. It's researched enough that you can go and learn about it and challenge your feelings.
- fwn 23d ago
  (Not the patent) I'm very much pro letting children roam freely, but police intervention for walking or driving with your own child is clearly overreach. The good intention does not change that. And even as a German who already spent a lot of time in Switzerland, I've never heard of anything like that. To join in on the therapy speak: it is very good to challenge one's feelings, let go, and then, by the merit of reason, realize that police intervention for spending commute time with your children is bonkers. It is just a very unreasonable extension of a very reasonable position.
abcd_f 23d ago
The GP dramatically exaggerated the state of affairs or perhaps it's how things are in their specific village/canton. In French cantons you can bring your kids to school, you can drive them there and there are spots for stopping and all respective signage. But there is indeed a lot of very young kids walking to school.
- comrade1234 23d ago
  I live in Zurich. I used to live in Pully, a suburb of Lausanne. It's much more car-centric in the French part. But at the same time our neighborhood had a Pedibus location where children met and walked to school from in a group.

WA 23d ago

No, it’s to counteract the desire of parents dropping of their kids in front of school with their car and causing traffic jams.

microtherion 23d ago
Exactly. It’s a collective action problem — every car dropping off a kid incrementally endangers the kids walking to school, so if there is no enforcement whatsoever, we’d end up with everybody driving, and a situation worse than in US schools (because Swiss schools were largely not constructed with drop off zones in mind, and retrofitting them would be difficult with our land use patterns).
neaden 23d ago
The original comment makes it sound like you'd get a police visit for walking with your kid to school though, which is hopefully a misunderstanding.
- jeffbee 23d ago
  In my experience the kids form a peloton walking to school but there are adults walking with the youngest such groups. E.g. this website (never been to this town, just seems representative). https://pskerzers.ch/pedibus/ https://pskerzers.ch/pedibus/

bestouff 23d ago

Sure. In a good way.

MattDaEskimo 23d ago

It'd be nice if you could back up your feelings with some reasoning. The neighborhood is safe enough and the community is cohesive enough that kids can congregate along their way to school: go to their friend's house, meet at a park, etc. It's researched enough that you can go and learn about it and challenge your feelings.

fwn 23d ago
(Not the patent) I'm very much pro letting children roam freely, but police intervention for walking or driving with your own child is clearly overreach. The good intention does not change that. And even as a German who already spent a lot of time in Switzerland, I've never heard of anything like that. To join in on the therapy speak: it is very good to challenge one's feelings, let go, and then, by the merit of reason, realize that police intervention for spending commute time with your children is bonkers. It is just a very unreasonable extension of a very reasonable position.

abcd_f 23d ago

The GP dramatically exaggerated the state of affairs or perhaps it's how things are in their specific village/canton. In French cantons you can bring your kids to school, you can drive them there and there are spots for stopping and all respective signage. But there is indeed a lot of very young kids walking to school.

comrade1234 23d ago
I live in Zurich. I used to live in Pully, a suburb of Lausanne. It's much more car-centric in the French part. But at the same time our neighborhood had a Pedibus location where children met and walked to school from in a group.