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Same, FIFA is just corrupt.

petcat 2mo ago
Okay so then we are agreeing that FIFA, a European institution, is a deeply corrupt, inconsistent, and unprincipled governing body. But somehow this was the fault of the US?
- pasc1878 2mo ago
  FIFA is NOT a European institution it is the global one. The European football institution is UEFA which has complained about things like this and is also trying to remove Infantino – but the rest of the world has been bribed enough to keep him on.
  - petcat 2mo ago
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    - triceratops 2mo ago
      Does that make the UN American?
      - petcat 2mo ago
        Is the UN a private organization legally incorporated in the US? The way that FIFA is in Europe/Switzerland?
        triceratops 2mo ago
        Would FIFA be less corrupt if it were legally incorporated somewhere else? I didn't know registering an entity in another place automatically changed the character of the people that run it. That's magic. Literally mind-control.
        petcat 2mo ago
        The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution and that has nothing to do with the US. But maybe you're trying to make a No True Scotsman argument.
        triceratops 2mo ago
        > The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution It has "international" right there in the name. The vast majority of its members are not "European" in any sense. Calling it "European" is offensive to those members and to the footballing world as a whole. It reeks of a colonial attitude. I'll ask you again: what actually affects how an organization runs? The place that it's registered in, or the people in charge? FIFA has to be registered somewhere for legal reasons. That doesn't make it of that place. > But maybe you're trying to make a No True Scotsman argument. If FIFA were registered in the Caymans would you call it a Caymanian organization?
        petcat 2mo ago
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    - charlieyu1 2mo ago
      Conversations like this make me want more gatekeeping especially for football. Some people just don’t have respect to customs and traditional practices and the actual untouchables. To not to sway too far away, well technically yes. However all 55 UEFA members threathened to quit FIFA after Infanito’s plan to privatise the World Cup. It was just last month. And we all know who is behind this.
- hgoel 2mo ago
  FIFA is a deeply corrupt institution (IDK if they count as specifically European, but if they do, it doesn't change the fact that they're corrupt). The US government is also deeply corrupt.

Okay so then we are agreeing that FIFA, a European institution, is a deeply corrupt, inconsistent, and unprincipled governing body. But somehow this was the fault of the US?

pasc1878 2mo ago
FIFA is NOT a European institution it is the global one. The European football institution is UEFA which has complained about things like this and is also trying to remove Infantino – but the rest of the world has been bribed enough to keep him on.
- petcat 2mo ago
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  - triceratops 2mo ago
    Does that make the UN American?
    - petcat 2mo ago
      Is the UN a private organization legally incorporated in the US? The way that FIFA is in Europe/Switzerland?
      - triceratops 2mo ago
        Would FIFA be less corrupt if it were legally incorporated somewhere else? I didn't know registering an entity in another place automatically changed the character of the people that run it. That's magic. Literally mind-control.
        petcat 2mo ago
        The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution and that has nothing to do with the US. But maybe you're trying to make a No True Scotsman argument.
        triceratops 2mo ago
        > The point is that FIFA is a corrupt European institution It has "international" right there in the name. The vast majority of its members are not "European" in any sense. Calling it "European" is offensive to those members and to the footballing world as a whole. It reeks of a colonial attitude. I'll ask you again: what actually affects how an organization runs? The place that it's registered in, or the people in charge? FIFA has to be registered somewhere for legal reasons. That doesn't make it of that place. > But maybe you're trying to make a No True Scotsman argument. If FIFA were registered in the Caymans would you call it a Caymanian organization?
        petcat 2mo ago
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  - charlieyu1 2mo ago
    Conversations like this make me want more gatekeeping especially for football. Some people just don’t have respect to customs and traditional practices and the actual untouchables. To not to sway too far away, well technically yes. However all 55 UEFA members threathened to quit FIFA after Infanito’s plan to privatise the World Cup. It was just last month. And we all know who is behind this.
hgoel 2mo ago
FIFA is a deeply corrupt institution (IDK if they count as specifically European, but if they do, it doesn't change the fact that they're corrupt). The US government is also deeply corrupt.