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AND try to not use Google, Facebook, Amazon, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Oracle and other similar products made by asshole companies.

Henchman21 1mo ago
Honestly, at what point do we just throw our kit in the trash and go back to pen & paper?
- abroszka33 1mo ago
  Yesterday. Do we actually need any of this stuff? Probably not. But it's damn hard to stop enjoying it.
- tentacleuno 1mo ago
  Reintroducing pen and paper to your note-taking repertoire might not be such a bad idea, anyway -- it's a much more creative medium than most digital, textual forms.
  - gonzalohm 1mo ago
    It's extremely complicated to organize it, though
    - unclad5968 1mo ago
      What is complicated about organizing written notes?
      - coffeefirst 1mo ago
        Not complicated, but many people have never learned how to do it or developed a system.
      - 63stack 1mo ago
        No search, no making space in an existing page, no moving text around, cumbersome to take it with you everywhere, unlike a phone.
        abroszka33 1mo ago
        You don't really need most of this, or it can be solved simply by thinking and remembering.
        dartharva 1mo ago
        By that logic you don't really need paper notes either.
    - tentacleuno 1mo ago
      I suppose it's harder to cross-reference and find things, though I suspect you could utilize some sort of organizational system to mostly overcome that. I really do think pen and paper will slowly regain prominence; I personally find that it can be much more liberating than digital media. It's great to be able to use the page as a canvas, writing wherever you want, without having to meet the constraints of a text editor or the likes. Doodles help to visualize and understand problems, too. Tangent for macOS is my current go-to for note-taking, and it works quite well: it's mostly just a Markdown editor, a tree structure of folders (which is really just a normal folder), and the ability to cross-reference and embed images. I suppose the primary problem of note-taking apps is that they sort of have to be opinionated in some way to be useful (that's been my experience, anyway.) Markdown files are also guilty of this: they constrain you to a certain layout, which can either be a negative or a positive. Anything too complicated can be off-putting, whilst anything too simplistic can also be limiting. It's a surprisingly complex field, and it could explain why there's so many different apps for it.
  - somat 1mo ago
    A similar life hack is the next time you have to give a presentation, you know, what is normally a brain numbing powerpoint slide deck sort of thing, rehearse and do the slides live on a chalkboard. The novelty of the spectacle means people will actually pay attention. Whiteboards are ok but really lack that visceral staccato punctuation that a chalkboard brings to the table.
- markvdb 1mo ago
  The moment you are reading this is not only peak digital trash, but also peak digital treasure!
- hagbard_c 1mo ago
  That is up to you but I don't see why. Just ignore whatever these entities do, run you free OS with your free software when and how you want it and 'your kit' is yours without interference by hostile entities. You won't be able to access much of what those entities put out there but that doesn't matter once you realise their offerings aren't worth their cost. The 'net is a big place with a lot of things going on. Drop the hostile actors and it is still a big place with a lot of things going on. The only problem you might encounter is once created by authorities which insist on you interacting with them through those hostile entities. I have thus far managed to use their applications - Swedish BankID and Dutch DigiD being the main ones - without needing to resort to any hostile entities - no Google accounts or Google services on my devices yet everything still works once I get rid of the nag screens telling me things won't work without the aforementioned. In short, drop hostile entities and keep 'your kit'.
- WarmWash 1mo ago
  Never, because you have to pay for pen an paper, and the most reliable way to determine what the internet will favor is simply "Does it cost money or show me ads". That is literally as deep as the internets interest goes.
ezoe 1mo ago
Here's your boycott list: * Android * All websites hosted on Google Cloud, Amazon AWS or Microsoft Azure * All websites using React * Github Life is tough. Good luck. I don't know why you didn't include Apple on the list and why you use Meta's old company name.
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- abroszka33 1mo ago
  Yes, these criminals have achieved quite a lot and it's hard to avoid them. I agree. Apple is not that evil in my opinion compared to the rest. If I don't use Apple then they don't bother me. I don't care about Facebook's rebranding. I'm allowed to call them what they are.
vamsipk 1mo ago
Did you forget the biggest asshole, Mr Apple?
- TylerE 1mo ago
  In what universe? Apple is by far the most consumer friendly big tech company.
  - deleted 1mo ago
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  - vor_ 1mo ago
    Sarcasm?
    - TylerE 1mo ago
      Not in the slightest. Who do you believe works more for consumer privacy and security? Meta? Google? Microsoft?
      - fsflover 1mo ago
        There are no megacorps that care about your privacy. Regarding Apple, see these: Apple fined $8.5M for illegally collecting iPhone owners' data for ads (gizmodo.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected (aalto.fi) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 Apple silently uploads your passwords and keeps them (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 Watchdog ponders why Apple doesn't apply its strict app tracking rules to itself (theregister.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 Apple memory holed its broken promise for an OCSP opt-out (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS (therecord.media) [but Apple still collects a lot!] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261
spaqin 1mo ago
Nah. One step at a time. That's the end goal, but by throwing everything all at once it's too easy to tell yourself it can't be done; so start with the worst offenders.
- Gud 1mo ago
  Those ARE the worst offenders. And you can easily avoid 80% off that list.
aembleton 1mo ago
Do you have a filter list that you use to block all of their domains, and their cloud offerings like AWS?

Henchman21 1mo ago

Honestly, at what point do we just throw our kit in the trash and go back to pen & paper?

abroszka33 1mo ago
Yesterday. Do we actually need any of this stuff? Probably not. But it's damn hard to stop enjoying it.
tentacleuno 1mo ago
Reintroducing pen and paper to your note-taking repertoire might not be such a bad idea, anyway -- it's a much more creative medium than most digital, textual forms.
- gonzalohm 1mo ago
  It's extremely complicated to organize it, though
  - unclad5968 1mo ago
    What is complicated about organizing written notes?
    - coffeefirst 1mo ago
      Not complicated, but many people have never learned how to do it or developed a system.
    - 63stack 1mo ago
      No search, no making space in an existing page, no moving text around, cumbersome to take it with you everywhere, unlike a phone.
      - abroszka33 1mo ago
        You don't really need most of this, or it can be solved simply by thinking and remembering.
        dartharva 1mo ago
        By that logic you don't really need paper notes either.
  - tentacleuno 1mo ago
    I suppose it's harder to cross-reference and find things, though I suspect you could utilize some sort of organizational system to mostly overcome that. I really do think pen and paper will slowly regain prominence; I personally find that it can be much more liberating than digital media. It's great to be able to use the page as a canvas, writing wherever you want, without having to meet the constraints of a text editor or the likes. Doodles help to visualize and understand problems, too. Tangent for macOS is my current go-to for note-taking, and it works quite well: it's mostly just a Markdown editor, a tree structure of folders (which is really just a normal folder), and the ability to cross-reference and embed images. I suppose the primary problem of note-taking apps is that they sort of have to be opinionated in some way to be useful (that's been my experience, anyway.) Markdown files are also guilty of this: they constrain you to a certain layout, which can either be a negative or a positive. Anything too complicated can be off-putting, whilst anything too simplistic can also be limiting. It's a surprisingly complex field, and it could explain why there's so many different apps for it.
- somat 1mo ago
  A similar life hack is the next time you have to give a presentation, you know, what is normally a brain numbing powerpoint slide deck sort of thing, rehearse and do the slides live on a chalkboard. The novelty of the spectacle means people will actually pay attention. Whiteboards are ok but really lack that visceral staccato punctuation that a chalkboard brings to the table.
markvdb 1mo ago
The moment you are reading this is not only peak digital trash, but also peak digital treasure!
hagbard_c 1mo ago
That is up to you but I don't see why. Just ignore whatever these entities do, run you free OS with your free software when and how you want it and 'your kit' is yours without interference by hostile entities. You won't be able to access much of what those entities put out there but that doesn't matter once you realise their offerings aren't worth their cost. The 'net is a big place with a lot of things going on. Drop the hostile actors and it is still a big place with a lot of things going on. The only problem you might encounter is once created by authorities which insist on you interacting with them through those hostile entities. I have thus far managed to use their applications - Swedish BankID and Dutch DigiD being the main ones - without needing to resort to any hostile entities - no Google accounts or Google services on my devices yet everything still works once I get rid of the nag screens telling me things won't work without the aforementioned. In short, drop hostile entities and keep 'your kit'.
WarmWash 1mo ago
Never, because you have to pay for pen an paper, and the most reliable way to determine what the internet will favor is simply "Does it cost money or show me ads". That is literally as deep as the internets interest goes.

ezoe 1mo ago

Here's your boycott list: * Android * All websites hosted on Google Cloud, Amazon AWS or Microsoft Azure * All websites using React * Github Life is tough. Good luck. I don't know why you didn't include Apple on the list and why you use Meta's old company name.

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abroszka33 1mo ago
Yes, these criminals have achieved quite a lot and it's hard to avoid them. I agree. Apple is not that evil in my opinion compared to the rest. If I don't use Apple then they don't bother me. I don't care about Facebook's rebranding. I'm allowed to call them what they are.

vamsipk 1mo ago

Did you forget the biggest asshole, Mr Apple?

TylerE 1mo ago
In what universe? Apple is by far the most consumer friendly big tech company.
- deleted 1mo ago
  [deleted]
- vor_ 1mo ago
  Sarcasm?
  - TylerE 1mo ago
    Not in the slightest. Who do you believe works more for consumer privacy and security? Meta? Google? Microsoft?
    - fsflover 1mo ago
      There are no megacorps that care about your privacy. Regarding Apple, see these: Apple fined $8.5M for illegally collecting iPhone owners' data for ads (gizmodo.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected (aalto.fi) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39927657 Apple silently uploads your passwords and keeps them (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 Watchdog ponders why Apple doesn't apply its strict app tracking rules to itself (theregister.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 Apple memory holed its broken promise for an OCSP opt-out (lapcatsoftware.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153 Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devices than Apple from iOS (therecord.media) [but Apple still collects a lot!] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261

spaqin 1mo ago

Nah. One step at a time. That's the end goal, but by throwing everything all at once it's too easy to tell yourself it can't be done; so start with the worst offenders.

Gud 1mo ago
Those ARE the worst offenders. And you can easily avoid 80% off that list.

aembleton 1mo ago

Do you have a filter list that you use to block all of their domains, and their cloud offerings like AWS?