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This has nothing to do with AI really. It's a century of pumping out CO2, not 2 years. Maybe in the future... but you can't blame AI for this year.

pluc 2mo ago
I'm totally with you. The proliferation of AI, to me, is a collective choice of convenience over climate. Remember Covid? We can do something, we just won't.
- IshKebab 2mo ago
  Do we even want to? AI is in many ways amazing. We should obviously not be powering these data centres with gas, but... that's hardly unique to data centres. America voted for Trump well before AI used any power.
- crote 2mo ago
  The general population didn't exactly get a choice. AI is forced on us in many apps we were already using, solely because CxOs believe any mention of AI results in Line Goes Up. The population didn't choose for convenience. The billionaires chose for additional profit.
insane_dreamer 2mo ago
But we can blame AI for making it much worse in 5 years instead of making it less bad as everyone agreed to ~10 years ago (until an idiot ascended the throne)
thi2 2mo ago
AI is another symptom, adding up with everything thats wrong.
mikrotikker 2mo ago
Yea but I bet if you still had beavers in Europe you'd still have water.
- IshKebab 2mo ago
  Uhm, no.
- olmo23 2mo ago
  We do still have beavers.
- nedt 2mo ago
  Funny. We have beavers in the Lobau in Vienna. But it's still dry. And yet we want to build a highway tunnel through it. Guess we just need more beavers. It's famous for it's naturism anyway.
- static_motion 2mo ago
  The conservation status of the Eurasian Beaver is "least concern" and the population is increasing. Their distribution doesn't cover all of Europe, but there's certainly no shortage of them.
tim333 2mo ago
AI has quite a lot to do with current policy. I thought we were going to have carbon emissions peak with electric cars and the like and now suddenly everyone wants to build tens of GW of data centers powered by gas turbines. Although I'm not anti AI, I could back limiting data center build out to available green energy.

pluc 2mo ago

I'm totally with you. The proliferation of AI, to me, is a collective choice of convenience over climate. Remember Covid? We can do something, we just won't.

IshKebab 2mo ago
Do we even want to? AI is in many ways amazing. We should obviously not be powering these data centres with gas, but... that's hardly unique to data centres. America voted for Trump well before AI used any power.
crote 2mo ago
The general population didn't exactly get a choice. AI is forced on us in many apps we were already using, solely because CxOs believe any mention of AI results in Line Goes Up. The population didn't choose for convenience. The billionaires chose for additional profit.

insane_dreamer 2mo ago

But we can blame AI for making it much worse in 5 years instead of making it less bad as everyone agreed to ~10 years ago (until an idiot ascended the throne)

thi2 2mo ago

AI is another symptom, adding up with everything thats wrong.

mikrotikker 2mo ago

Yea but I bet if you still had beavers in Europe you'd still have water.

IshKebab 2mo ago
Uhm, no.
olmo23 2mo ago
We do still have beavers.
nedt 2mo ago
Funny. We have beavers in the Lobau in Vienna. But it's still dry. And yet we want to build a highway tunnel through it. Guess we just need more beavers. It's famous for it's naturism anyway.
static_motion 2mo ago
The conservation status of the Eurasian Beaver is "least concern" and the population is increasing. Their distribution doesn't cover all of Europe, but there's certainly no shortage of them.

tim333 2mo ago

AI has quite a lot to do with current policy. I thought we were going to have carbon emissions peak with electric cars and the like and now suddenly everyone wants to build tens of GW of data centers powered by gas turbines. Although I'm not anti AI, I could back limiting data center build out to available green energy.