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What stops them from submitting PRs from another account?
by qsera 1mo ago
What stops them from submitting PRs from another account?
- kaffekaka 1mo agoWhat stopped them before?
- qsera 1mo agoBefore they were not able to spam large PRs
- Supermancho 1mo agoWhy not? I'm pretty sure a developer could spam large PRs before and regardless of AI involvement is allowed or not.
- inigyou 1mo agoHow would you generate enough large PRs to count as "spam"? You could add gibberish or delete random lines of code but it was obviously not plausible looking.
- JohnHaugeland 1mo agothis article is about the flood of junior developers who are producing enormous prs they’ve never seen full of untrustworthy code that a human hasn’t evaluated arguing that it’s possible to make them by hand isn’t just missing the point; it’s missing the entire discussion
- Supermancho 1mo ago> arguing that it’s possible to make them by hand isn’t just missing the point; it’s missing the entire discussion >> Before they were not able to spam large PRs I was replying to someone insinuating that there was something I might have missed. Interjecting about the topical article, is a derail of this thread for some reason that is personal to you. Good luck with whatever.
- zeendo 1mo agoObviously they could have. Obviously it's much easier now.
- Mawr 1mo agoYou can cut down a tree regardless if you use a knife or a chainsaw. You can get to work each day regardless if you walk or drive.
- cdata 1mo agoI can't speak for all, but many mature open source communities have explicit or ad-hoc reputation schemes that are used to triage contributions. A fresh account means starting over with zero reputation, which in turn means your contributions wait at the back of the line.
- MithrilTuxedo 1mo agoReputation, or lack thereof. Proof of authority, essentially.
- jayofdoom 1mo agoNothing. And that's the problem -- the issue isn't "should a contributor be able to use AI" it's quickly becoming "is this entire contributor an AI agent". Every actual-human who gets a bad first experience hurts the project. The contributors having to be suspicious of new people hurts the project. The whole thing just sucks, and I don't know how to fix it. I use claude-code, but the AI ecosystem and some of the autonomous tooling coming out of it -- which some people "helpfully" use irresponsibly and point at OSS projects they aren't personally invested in -- enables a LARGE amount of abusive behavior towards open source projects. This is even before we get into how many infrastructural resources crawlers eat up. Me, and most other OSS contributors, signed up to be a mentor, to create software, to work together ... not to be the equivalent of a reddit moderator banning AI agents left and right.
- digitaltrees 1mo agoWhat is a good project for a human to get human mentorship? Asking for a friend :)
- lrvick 1mo agohttps://stagex.tools https://stagex.tools Always happy to train up new packagers and maintainers.
- zenoprax 1mo agoThis is the second time I've seen this project mentioned on HN. Their white paper is very interesting and aligns closely with my interests but I don't see much on the main site about how to get involved. Are they using their Matrix server to filter out drive-by/low-effort contributions?
- lrvick 1mo agoI am the founder of the project. We accept every contribution that solves a problem, even drive-bys. Though they may often sit for a bit as we often merge in batches. If there is something missing, make a PR by all means. Ask any questions on matrix.
- cineticdaffodil 1mo ago[dead]
- 2Gkashmiri 1mo agoIn anonymous systems, where we don't use real names, your "handle" has an "age". That becomes your most prized possession. I have a reddit account thats over 12 years old. I have left the posts/comments open. That means, my "post history" becomes a way to advertise my skills. I can reference comments from a year ago or 6 months ago about a certain topic to show how I handled something. That does have an effect on people. As opposed to a random 1 day old account. No one takes them seriously, I guess the same is here as well
- ipaddr 1mo agoNo one takes a 12 year old Reddit account seriously either. It's not a platform you can take anyone seriously. The biggest trolls have 12 year old accounts.
- clort 1mo agothe age is not the measure of quality. the GP said they left the posts/comments open. anybody can read that and check if they are or not a serious contributor
- inigyou 1mo agoBe extremely careful with that account then, because they ban accounts for the most minor things now. Stuff like posting evidence disproving something the moderator agrees with. And they ban your account from the whole site, not just from that subreddit any more. Automated algorithms also ban accounts for reasons that don't make any sense. So if you're using your account to advertise yourself and look for jobs, I'd use it only for that. All off-topic discussion should be on a different account with a different physical device and IP address (reddit checks these things and cross-bans) that have never interacted with your main account.
- tremon 1mo agoWhat part of [0] or [1] makes you think that it is easy to have multiple accounts? [0] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer#Becoming_a_Debian_Maintainer https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer#Becoming_a_Debian_M... [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper/JoinTheProject/NewMemberCheckList https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper/JoinTheProject/NewMe...
- kikoreis 1mo agoWell. This is Debian, known for how strict they are about vetting developers. I just remembered Sladen refusing to key sign because my passport circa 2005 didn't have a machine readable slug in it. https://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint https://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint
- smashed 1mo agoDebian is notoriously very strict on accepting maintainers and they are not anonymous.
- ahartmetz 1mo agoPresumably they are trying to farm karma / reputation, which (I think, mostly) doesn't work if they need to switch accounts all the time.