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Is it? What's the statement?
by jeffnv 1mo ago
Is it? What's the statement?
- Retr0id 1mo agoIt's quite a loud one, but it's broadcast above 25KHz or so
- iamnotamouse 1mo ago[flagged]
- Retr0id 1mo agoU+1F921
- hananova 1mo agoYes that is one part of how dog whistles work. Disguise it well enough to get rubes to run interference for you. You’re doing that very well.
- iamnotamouse 1mo ago[flagged]
- jordanf 1mo agowut? haha
- lambda 1mo agoJust to explain because not everyone is necessarily a native English speaker or gets the reference. This is a reference to a dog whistle. Above 25kHz are sounds that dogs can hear but humans generally can't. The term dog whistle is used to refer to phrases that racists use to indicate their racism, while sounding plausibly deniable. The idea is that it's a phrase that will make other racists realize that you are one of them, while not sounding openly racist to others. DHH himself has gone beyond dog whistles. He's directly compared what he considers undesirable ehtnic populations to wolves who need to be shot. He's just openly calling for ethnic cleansing by now. But support for Omarchy itself can be seen as a dog whistle. It's widely known that DHH is a fascist, but you have some plausible deniability by donating to Omarchy because you're just politically neutral and think it's cool tech, or something like that.
- embedding-shape 1mo ago> DHH himself has gone beyond dog whistles. He's directly compared what he considers undesirable ehtnic populations to wolves who need to be shot. He's just openly calling for ethnic cleansing by now. Let me prefix this with that DHH's opinions suck, not sure what he's going through but clearly something, and that blog post you're referencing is terrible in lots of ways. But he's not openly calling for ethnic cleansing, you're doing speaking against him a disservice by not providing an accurate view of what shit thing he said. It's still terrible, the verbatim quotes (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49448148 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49448148), but deporting isn't the same as "ethnic cleansing". Even people we disagree with vehemently should be disagreed with honestly. Then that blog post is just one of many where he've essentially gone of the rails in terms of hardline authoritarianism and fascist ideas, which makes it kind of weird he's getting the financial support he's getting. But then some just don't care about what viewpoints others have, I suppose that's a valid stance too even if I disagree with it.
- rbanffy 1mo ago> but deporting isn't the same as "ethnic cleansing". I’m sorry, but forcibly deporting people because of their ethnic background is the very definition of ethnic cleansing. In general, if people use violence on the population as a way to either kill or forcibly expel them, there would be a strong case to call it a genocide.
- embedding-shape 1mo ago> forcibly deporting people because of their ethnic background is the very definition of ethnic cleansing I agree, but I think if this is what you think he's arguing for, you either need to re-read the blog post, or you're not discussing that post honestly, which again does us all a disservice, regardless of how much we disagree with him or not.
- lambda 1mo agoHe uses a word that is a slur for the Romani, an ethnic minority in many European countries. He never discusses nationality. He also compares deporting them (to where, you might ask) to shooting wolves. It's also not his only post on the topic. He has previous ones where he complains of how horrible London is because white British people no longer constitute a majority. He calls for not just ends to immigration and closing borders, but "remigration". It is very clear from these posts that he strongly believes that non white ethnic groups should be removed from European countries. If that's not ethnic cleansing, I don't know what is.
- noir_lord 1mo agoBeyond human hearing for a whistle but within the frequency a dog can hear a whistle, i.e. a slightly tongue in cheek way to call it a dog whistle.
- phendrenad2 1mo agoOf course it differs by the individual. I think there are three camps: Those who have read DHH's blog posts, and agree with them. Those who have read DHH's blog posts, but think "he couldn't possibly mean that". Those who haven't read DHH's blog posts, but know that he's on "their side" (right-leaning).
- qup 1mo agoYou seem to be talking about users. They're talking about creators. I don't think users know who DHH is, or care who DHH is. Probably like 0.01% of users have read a blog post, let alone a political one. (Maybe they all are, I haven't read any)
- rbanffy 1mo agoIt still feels like they are supporting a notorious neofascist.
- threecheese 1mo agoDisagree there; anyone who installs Omarchy does it because a social media creator they like suggested it, and there’s only a few degrees of separation between those creators. This isn’t like Slackware’s popularity in the 90s, peer to peer, this all top-down. I’d call it hype-driven, if they didnt have a neat product (which I’m not a customer of).
- majorchord 1mo agoAlso have to disagree with you there... there are other ways to find out about distros besides social media or people suggesting it. Back in the day, one of the only ways people even found out about new distros was through sites like Distrowatch who just reported on the facts of the distros and never tried to market them to people.
- qup 1mo agoExactly. I mostly read about distros right here in the comments. I had no idea DHH was political. I don't follow Linux YouTubers, why would I?
- canelonesdeverd 1mo ago"Linux has been infected by le woke mob and we're making it Great Again"
- emsign 1mo agoUgh, gosh really? I looked at one of the videos of the... eh excentric developer of the distro where he was presenting 4.0 and I was wondering about that retro neon design of background images he seemed to adore so much. I was wondering why someone would still think this Fashwave design to be cool. It's been what? 10 years when this trope peaked?
- speak_plainly 1mo agoThat OSS has become too entangled with political activism and ideological gatekeeping, when it should be about making great software, giving people control over their computers, and rediscovering the joy of computing. I don't think Omarchy is anti-political so much as an attempt to revive the enthusiast/hacker ethos of the OSS community.
- mathw 1mo ago[flagged]
- thesdev 1mo agoNot sure ignore is the right word here. I think they rather take pride in it.
- throwawaypath 1mo ago[flagged]
- meibo 1mo agoThe fact that this is up for debate already says all. For anyone passing through, read the blog posts and his social media feeds, make up your own mind.
- rbanffy 1mo agoRacists don't think racist speech is racism. News at eleven.
- meibo 1mo agoNot everyone passing through HN is a racist. These things become canon when nobody opposes them.
- throwawaypath 1mo ago[flagged]
- poulpy123 1mo agoI'm very far from it but I saw many exchanges in my twitter timeline (because now when you click on a tweet to read it or interact, the algorithm thinks it's your only interest in life). Do basically, they got 8 millions dollars of funding, they bragged and criticized others in linux and said some political stuff, they were also criticized by others including political stuff from the other side (not sure of the order). Finally it became viral enough for people looking at the security of the distro and found many issues. Personally I like my Linux distro like my coffee: competently managed, with a minimum of drama and with having to hear the less assholes possible.
- TiredOfLife 1mo agoAnd which distro is like that?
- rbanffy 1mo agoWhat collective human endeavour is devoid of politics? Politics is how groups decide things, from what a code of conduct should be to where we should stop for coffee after lunch. It’s easy to not notice it, but we do politics dozens of times every day.
- TiredOfLife 1mo agopoulpy123 claimed that they use such distro
- rbanffy 1mo agoAs any distro is a significant group effort, I would say this is impossible and that they might not have realised how group decisions are made.
- busterarm 1mo ago> Personally I like my Linux distro like my coffee: competently managed, with a minimum of drama and with having to hear the less assholes possible. I've been using Linux since 1993 and at various points every distro under the sun and that perfectly describes exactly zero Linux distributions.
- neonnoodle 1mo agoIt's 14 words long.
- neutronicus 1mo agoThe author seems in his blog posts to advocate for mass deportation of recent immigrants to Europe. This is an inflammatory enough position to make any of his output into a de facto political statement.