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Wow. Is OpenClaw still alive? Would their users spend so many for the new Mac mini?
by kuuuzya 1mo ago
Wow. Is OpenClaw still alive? Would their users spend so many for the new Mac mini?
- amelius 1mo agoHow many tokens per second would you even get on them?
- kennywinker 1mo agoAfaik most openclaw users aren’t running their llm locally - just using a mac mini as an always-on sandbox for agents.
- xhkkffbf 1mo agoA sandbox with access to iMessage. Can't have your agent texting with green boxes.
- kennywinker 1mo agoNono it’s ok iMessage is actually an open standard - steve promised.
- frollogaston 1mo agoThis is why my wife's iPhone 6 is still better in real life usage than the latest flagship Android phone. Playing high-end 3D game vs not screwing up the group chat.
- copperx 1mo agoCool, like a $5 VPS?
- kennywinker 1mo agoYes, but 100 times more expensive.
- o_m 1mo agoA $5 VPS is easy to block. It's way harder to block a stock mac mini from a residential IP address
- kennywinker 1mo agoTailscale the vps into your home network, and have it use that as an exit node.
- o_m 1mo agoThe bot blocking services are more advanced than that. They will do stuff like checking how your fonts are rendered in a canvas element to determine your browser and OS. A stock mac circumvent all that by hiding in plain sight.
- DaSHacka 1mo agoBut why a Mac mini over a $30 raspberry pi on the same residential connection?
- frollogaston 1mo agoGuess cause it'll still do local builds and stuff, and probably do a lot more of those if the agents are spamming builds and it's something like Swift or Rust that takes a lot to compile
- kennywinker 1mo agoSo a $100 optiplex?
- simonh 1mo agoOpenClaw was originally designed to run on a Mac, but using remote LLMs accessed via API. Running the LLM locally on beefier hardware came later.
- rxyz 1mo agoLarge majority of users moved to Hermes Agent