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> I realize that there’s a population of people who just refuse to use anything associated with Musk because politics have eaten our brains Everyone has their

> I realize that there’s a population of people who just refuse to use anything associated with Musk because politics have eaten our brains Everyone has their own frameworks for risk assessments, its more of the historical incidents associated with it than politics

somenameforme 2mo ago
I think this is rationalization given that the entire LLM industry was precipitated by companies engage in wholesale misuse and abuse of copyrighted information for their own enrichment. The obvious concern about LLMs is now the companies engaging in misuse and abuse of copyrighted information (yours in particular) for their own enrichment. But now we are left to convince ourselves that they'd never do anything like that.
timr 2mo ago
I mean, sure. If people tell me that they're avoiding Grok because of that bug, I sorta get it. I think it's silly (again: they're all hoovering up my data), but at least it's a rational basis related to the actual product. But let's be real: Musk exists as a polarizing political character, and his association with Grok just breaks some people's brains. A fair number of those people don't want to admit it, and just latch on to any rationalization other than politics. Anthropic could make the same mistake tomorrow, and I guarantee that we wouldn't be hearing about it in a week, let alone months from now.
- sandeepkd 2mo ago
  Is he polarizing? Yes, and so are a lot more other people. He is probably comes more stronger. On a personal level, everyone have their own rules, they may not be able to imposing them on others , however they do happen to evaluate their relative understanding of other people based upon those rules. For me personally, I would probably put Anthropic, OpenAI and Grok in the same bucket, they are doing everything possible to make money. Ethics, morals, long term impacts, all of such things are not in their playbook. But again what these companies are doing just reflects the people who invested in them and what they want out of it. In some ways you can say its the money trying to maximize itself at all costs.

somenameforme 2mo ago

I think this is rationalization given that the entire LLM industry was precipitated by companies engage in wholesale misuse and abuse of copyrighted information for their own enrichment. The obvious concern about LLMs is now the companies engaging in misuse and abuse of copyrighted information (yours in particular) for their own enrichment. But now we are left to convince ourselves that they'd never do anything like that.

timr 2mo ago

I mean, sure. If people tell me that they're avoiding Grok because of that bug, I sorta get it. I think it's silly (again: they're all hoovering up my data), but at least it's a rational basis related to the actual product. But let's be real: Musk exists as a polarizing political character, and his association with Grok just breaks some people's brains. A fair number of those people don't want to admit it, and just latch on to any rationalization other than politics. Anthropic could make the same mistake tomorrow, and I guarantee that we wouldn't be hearing about it in a week, let alone months from now.

sandeepkd 2mo ago
Is he polarizing? Yes, and so are a lot more other people. He is probably comes more stronger. On a personal level, everyone have their own rules, they may not be able to imposing them on others , however they do happen to evaluate their relative understanding of other people based upon those rules. For me personally, I would probably put Anthropic, OpenAI and Grok in the same bucket, they are doing everything possible to make money. Ethics, morals, long term impacts, all of such things are not in their playbook. But again what these companies are doing just reflects the people who invested in them and what they want out of it. In some ways you can say its the money trying to maximize itself at all costs.