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Killer feature. It would be awesome to have some plugin or userscript to auto-swap the e-begging scammy link for an Archive link instead.

Nextgrid 1mo ago
There is a regex replacement feature. You could build a list of known paywall domains to rewrite them to your desired paywall unblocker service.
- teroshan 1mo ago
  Exactly: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html
azan_ 1mo ago
Is asking for money for your work begging? That's interesting take.
- ImPostingOnHN 1mo ago
  You're right, but I'd personally be okay with the paywalled article search results not showing up, since they are ads masquerading as usable search results. If the publisher wants me to subscribe (and many do publish content worth paying for), they can reach me via normal means, versus corrupting my search results.
  - deleted 1mo ago
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  - no-name-here 1mo ago
    Is the idea that you strongly prefer seeing ads instead of paywalls?
    - ohyoutravel 1mo ago
      I prefer ads because pihole blocks them. Paywalls block me, and then I have to reload and ninja enter reader mode, or if I’m reading inclined, find an archive link.
      - no-name-here 1mo ago
        Wait, then how do you expect the journalists, sysadmins, server bills, etc. to get paid without paywalls and ads?
        mionhe 1mo ago
        I think this short exchange highlights the problem really well. Most people are uninterested in paying for those services, in part because the internet has trained them that information is free and in part because of fairly extreme polarization in opinions that seems to be everywhere. Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good, but that information was something the news companies were giving away for free not that many years ago, reinforcing the idea that information should be free. If there going to make money long term, they're going to have to find a new way to monetize. People are actively blocking the ads and don't want to pay for yet another subscription to content they don't access that often.
        no-name-here 1mo ago
        > news companies were giving away for free not that many years ago Haven't either ads or paywalls/subscriptions always been the primary way that news companies paid for journalists/sysadmins/servers, etc? What was the funding source 'not that many years ago' if not ads or paywalls/subscriptions? > Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good Is arguing such a thing "well and good"? I'm not complaining, but my GP comment merely asking how the other user expected the sites he wants to get content from will pay their costs (as they said ads and paywalls/subscriptions were out) got downvoted - I'm not even sure that goes as far as arguing that people should help pay for content that they want to receive.
  - cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
    Right. I don’t mind paying when the value is clear and I feel like my time has been respected, and paywalled link showing up in search violates the second of those two. In most of the circumstances when those show up in my search I’m looking for information for immediate use and I am not going whip out a credit card. If I run into a paywall, I’m immediately hitting the back button and moving on to the next result, so it’s better if they just never show up in search at all.
    - bitpush 1mo ago
      This sounds a bit odd to me. When I'm hungry, I dont run to McDonald's and expect to be fed for free. I whip out my card, pay for the items, patiently wait for the food to be arrive and then eat. You could very well argue that why are you making me wait for my food when I'm hungry. What gives?
      - natios 1mo ago
        i think the crux here is you can’t get the food for free next door like you can get with information
      - cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
        The sibling reply has the right idea. Information and food are very different things, with the former spreading and duplicating every time a human comes in contact with it and often becoming readily available from a wide variety of sources. To be clear, I have no issue paying for what I find to be quality writing, especially when it brings a novel, well thought out perspective or context. The a large majority of stuff I see turning up in search results is not this, however, especially in recent years. That category is dominated by AI-written growth hacky low info drivel.
  - rafram 1mo ago
    By this logic, listings for physical products shouldn't show in search results either, because they're just ads for something you have to pay for. You aren't entitled to others' work for free, and sometimes the most relevant result for your search is something paid. This is a particularly tone-deaf line of reasoning on Hacker News, IMO, because the tech industry is (a) so, so much better paid than journalism, for work that is easier, and (b) largely responsible for the death of journalism as a sustainable business.
    - cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
      Physical products are different because potential buyers are afforded a bevy of free, easily accessible ways to evaluate the product prior to purchase. I have no way to throughly evaluate the quality of a blog that cuts off everything but the first sixth of its posts or a news site that stonewalls me after viewing an article or two. I subscribe to multiple news sites and programming blogs and none of them resort to such tactics.
      - rafram 1mo ago
        Most newspapers/magazines have extremely generous intro offers. NYT offers $4/month! WSJ offers $8/month! You can get a great literary magazine like n+1 with physical issues for $3! These are extremely good deals. I mean, plenty of vibe-coded Show HN projects want more than that for something built in a weekend with close to zero ongoing costs.
        cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
        It’s not just the monetary cost, but also the overhead involved. It’s yet another subscription to have to manage (and eventually jump through hoops to cancel) as well as the friction in the moment of needing to pull out a credit card or sign into PayPal or whatever. As far as vibe coded projects go, I go out of my way to not pay for them not just because of the same reasons outlined above, but also because their value is questionable at best.
        1mo ago
  - u554uu5u 1mo ago
    they are reaching out out via normal means. you don't get to redefine words because you are too cheap to pay for information and only read trash. its so funny how you idiots gibble about "if you do not pay you are the product" but everything you know about the world is you being the product
    - whackernews 1mo ago
      Lol, this guy thinks you pay for information. Do you think every bit of literature that is old, has no copyright, and in the public realm is trash? I tend to think the opposite actually. Nothing that’s been written in the past 100 years is worth the paper it’s on in my opinion. Maybe you’re the one who’s PAYING to read trash?
    - ImPostingOnHN 1mo ago
      Normal means would be paying for ads, making cold calls, etc. You do not see ads for a new pressure washer on Google News because that is not a normal place for ads to go. You are free to redefine whatever you want for yourself.
- pelagicAustral 1mo ago
  Assuming an actual journalist wrote the piece, and it's not some stitch together, half-slop, half-cognitive noise-ridden piece of crap, like, you know, about 80% of all content behind a paywall.
bramhaag 1mo ago
There is the extension Bypass Paywalls Clean[1] which fetches content from archive sites and displays it on the original page. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bypass_Paywalls_Clean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bypass_Paywalls_Clean
Gander5739 1mo ago
There's Bypass Paywalls Clean (not going to link for obvious reasons).

Nextgrid 1mo ago

There is a regex replacement feature. You could build a list of known paywall domains to rewrite them to your desired paywall unblocker service.

teroshan 1mo ago
Exactly: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html

azan_ 1mo ago

Is asking for money for your work begging? That's interesting take.

ImPostingOnHN 1mo ago
You're right, but I'd personally be okay with the paywalled article search results not showing up, since they are ads masquerading as usable search results. If the publisher wants me to subscribe (and many do publish content worth paying for), they can reach me via normal means, versus corrupting my search results.
- deleted 1mo ago
  [deleted]
- no-name-here 1mo ago
  Is the idea that you strongly prefer seeing ads instead of paywalls?
  - ohyoutravel 1mo ago
    I prefer ads because pihole blocks them. Paywalls block me, and then I have to reload and ninja enter reader mode, or if I’m reading inclined, find an archive link.
    - no-name-here 1mo ago
      Wait, then how do you expect the journalists, sysadmins, server bills, etc. to get paid without paywalls and ads?
      - mionhe 1mo ago
        I think this short exchange highlights the problem really well. Most people are uninterested in paying for those services, in part because the internet has trained them that information is free and in part because of fairly extreme polarization in opinions that seems to be everywhere. Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good, but that information was something the news companies were giving away for free not that many years ago, reinforcing the idea that information should be free. If there going to make money long term, they're going to have to find a new way to monetize. People are actively blocking the ads and don't want to pay for yet another subscription to content they don't access that often.
        no-name-here 1mo ago
        > news companies were giving away for free not that many years ago Haven't either ads or paywalls/subscriptions always been the primary way that news companies paid for journalists/sysadmins/servers, etc? What was the funding source 'not that many years ago' if not ads or paywalls/subscriptions? > Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good Is arguing such a thing "well and good"? I'm not complaining, but my GP comment merely asking how the other user expected the sites he wants to get content from will pay their costs (as they said ads and paywalls/subscriptions were out) got downvoted - I'm not even sure that goes as far as arguing that people should help pay for content that they want to receive.
- cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
  Right. I don’t mind paying when the value is clear and I feel like my time has been respected, and paywalled link showing up in search violates the second of those two. In most of the circumstances when those show up in my search I’m looking for information for immediate use and I am not going whip out a credit card. If I run into a paywall, I’m immediately hitting the back button and moving on to the next result, so it’s better if they just never show up in search at all.
  - bitpush 1mo ago
    This sounds a bit odd to me. When I'm hungry, I dont run to McDonald's and expect to be fed for free. I whip out my card, pay for the items, patiently wait for the food to be arrive and then eat. You could very well argue that why are you making me wait for my food when I'm hungry. What gives?
    - natios 1mo ago
      i think the crux here is you can’t get the food for free next door like you can get with information
    - cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
      The sibling reply has the right idea. Information and food are very different things, with the former spreading and duplicating every time a human comes in contact with it and often becoming readily available from a wide variety of sources. To be clear, I have no issue paying for what I find to be quality writing, especially when it brings a novel, well thought out perspective or context. The a large majority of stuff I see turning up in search results is not this, however, especially in recent years. That category is dominated by AI-written growth hacky low info drivel.
- rafram 1mo ago
  By this logic, listings for physical products shouldn't show in search results either, because they're just ads for something you have to pay for. You aren't entitled to others' work for free, and sometimes the most relevant result for your search is something paid. This is a particularly tone-deaf line of reasoning on Hacker News, IMO, because the tech industry is (a) so, so much better paid than journalism, for work that is easier, and (b) largely responsible for the death of journalism as a sustainable business.
  - cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
    Physical products are different because potential buyers are afforded a bevy of free, easily accessible ways to evaluate the product prior to purchase. I have no way to throughly evaluate the quality of a blog that cuts off everything but the first sixth of its posts or a news site that stonewalls me after viewing an article or two. I subscribe to multiple news sites and programming blogs and none of them resort to such tactics.
    - rafram 1mo ago
      Most newspapers/magazines have extremely generous intro offers. NYT offers $4/month! WSJ offers $8/month! You can get a great literary magazine like n+1 with physical issues for $3! These are extremely good deals. I mean, plenty of vibe-coded Show HN projects want more than that for something built in a weekend with close to zero ongoing costs.
      - cosmic_cheese 1mo ago
        It’s not just the monetary cost, but also the overhead involved. It’s yet another subscription to have to manage (and eventually jump through hoops to cancel) as well as the friction in the moment of needing to pull out a credit card or sign into PayPal or whatever. As far as vibe coded projects go, I go out of my way to not pay for them not just because of the same reasons outlined above, but also because their value is questionable at best.
        1mo ago
- u554uu5u 1mo ago
  they are reaching out out via normal means. you don't get to redefine words because you are too cheap to pay for information and only read trash. its so funny how you idiots gibble about "if you do not pay you are the product" but everything you know about the world is you being the product
  - whackernews 1mo ago
    Lol, this guy thinks you pay for information. Do you think every bit of literature that is old, has no copyright, and in the public realm is trash? I tend to think the opposite actually. Nothing that’s been written in the past 100 years is worth the paper it’s on in my opinion. Maybe you’re the one who’s PAYING to read trash?
  - ImPostingOnHN 1mo ago
    Normal means would be paying for ads, making cold calls, etc. You do not see ads for a new pressure washer on Google News because that is not a normal place for ads to go. You are free to redefine whatever you want for yourself.
pelagicAustral 1mo ago
Assuming an actual journalist wrote the piece, and it's not some stitch together, half-slop, half-cognitive noise-ridden piece of crap, like, you know, about 80% of all content behind a paywall.

bramhaag 1mo ago

There is the extension Bypass Paywalls Clean[1] which fetches content from archive sites and displays it on the original page. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bypass_Paywalls_Clean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bypass_Paywalls_Clean

Gander5739 1mo ago

There's Bypass Paywalls Clean (not going to link for obvious reasons).