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Stop eating Lady Gaga's Oreos
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- davidw 2mo agoAs a huge fan of Fishbone, who did not make it big, despite being oh so close in the early 90ies... it'd be nice if there were a better balance. They've seemingly struggled over the years and kept going, but you get the sense that the guys don't have a lot of economic security that they might have with a few big hits.
- nemomarx 2mo ago> The only thing that’s unprecedented about these craven cash-ins is how well they seem to be working. Selling out no longer carries a stigma—if anything, fans are excited for tie-ins between their favorite bands and their favorite brands, no matter how shameless. I feel like this only really makes sense in contrast to specifically the 90s? This wasn't some eternal cultural rule that changed in the 2000s, it's just two pretty recent trends in mainstream culture. You can still find people who are snobby about Drake compared to Kendrick or Taylor Swift compared to Chappelle Roan nowadays anyway. That mindset isn't gone?
- Tadpole9181 2mo agoI also think it's important to distinguish selling out from participating in culture and making things people may enjoy. The pendulum often swings between extremes before settling on reasonable middle ground. Having fun colors for one of the world's most popular cookie brands is pretty low on the scale of harm compared to, say, actively promoting people to go use online gambling services or buy snakeoil supplements.
- nemomarx 2mo agoFor me the issue is that online gambling firms can operate legally at this scale and that they therefore have the money to get commercials like that. The celebrity endorsements are bad too, but priorities
- sanderjd 1mo agoRight! Even in the 90s this doesn't make sense. If The New Kids on the Block had sold branded Oreos, they would have flown off the shelves. There have always been mainstream pop culture figures with dedicated fandoms that don't care whether they have "sold out". But I do think there is a real difference here. I just think it's a media difference. It's true that in the 90s (and I would say longer than that) culture writers would pretty universally scoff at "sellouts" and lionize auteurs. But those gatekeepers have lost all their power to control the message. I think that's the real difference.
- wodenokoto 1mo agoNo, but it was big in the 90s. Anti corporate and anti commercial rock and grunge was really big. It really was “I hate success. Down with consumerism, buy my t-shirt”
- gkoberger 2mo agoI don't know if I buy this framing. The intro Pearl Jam story is only noteworthy because it's unique. Cobain wasn't one of a million examples of counter-culture; we still talk about him today because it was uniquely his brand (to be incredibly famous while seemingly rejecting the fame). Michael Jackson's hair caught on fire filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984. Bill Cosby famously hawked Jell-O Pudding. Sports stars were on Wheaties. Ronald Regan (the actor!) was a spokesperson for GE. But that being said, celeb endorsements aside... I do think that the author is right that everything these days "feels fake/contrived" and almost nothing exists without an angle to make money somehow. Everyone now has the ability to go viral and make it big financially, so it does feel like much of our actions (even if that's not our goal) are shaped that way. A random person may not want to be a rich, famous Instagram influencer... but that doesn't stop them from acting similarly (posting photos for likes). Humans have always had versions of trying to monetize their lifestyles (tupperware parties?); now we all have the tools to do it at scale.
- SV_BubbleTime 2mo agoAnd in those examples you don’t see any difference to: >Maroon 5 is covering Bob Marley’s “Three Little Birds” as a tribute to Hyundai Because that sentence hits hard in the smh.
- nemomarx 2mo agoIsn't it pretty normal for car commercials or soda commercials to get covers of songs made? "I'd like to teach the world to sing" was covered as a tribute to coca cola in 1971, that's classic now.
- gkoberger 2mo agoA band covering a song for a Hyundai ad? Michael Jackson did a parody of his own song Billie Jean for Pepsi ("You're the Pepsi generation")
- frollogaston 1mo agoOne of Nancy Ajram's most popular songs was originally made as a Coca Cola ad soundtrack
- glimshe 2mo agoI think the world has bigger problems than Lady Gaga's Oreos. That said, why not say "Stop Eating Oreos" altogether? Although they are certainly yummy, the sugar in them is a lot worse for people than Lady Gaga's association.
- Insanity 2mo agoI will say, Oreos are one of the better vegan cookies on the market. The ones purposely advertized as vegan tend to be less tasty. But yeah, 100% should not be a regular thing to eat.
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- winkelwagen 2mo agoDefinitely a fun read, I almost spit out my coffee after reading about Gen Z thinking nirvana is a clothing brand. But I don’t follow with the whole premise. The mobility hypothesis is interesting, that people no longer see rich people as something attainable. But becoming famous through influencing or something on that vain. But famous people have been sellouts for far longer than i can remember. Kate bush did some weird promotion for a Dutch theme park called de Efteling and we have been messing with millennials for the past 20 years that nirvana is headlining the biggest Dutch music festival every year. “Ooh yeah i love that song”. And as far as I know Paris Hilton played half of the world into thinking that she was dumb as a rock. Think that brands have given up on old school advertising. Just god lazy to give people a big bag of money for exposure. For how long will that work until people get bored of that? Yes, a music artist aligning themselves with Pantone as a color once is novel. But how many times does that really stay interesting? Just lazy advertising what only work for a couple of years until the larger crowed stops caring about the next branded Oreo deal.
- CobrastanJorji 2mo ago> Why don’t the poor people vote to take all the money away from the rich people and redistribute it amongst themselves? It's because the Powers That Be don't put it on the ballot. If you put "take 99% of the money from the 1000 richest billionaires (about $10 trillion, I think), and nobody has to pay any income taxes for the next four years" on some sort of national ballot, I think there's a very good chance that it would pass.
- cm2012 1mo agoThat law would take a hammer to average US quality of life almost overnight. Its hard to state how dramatic the societal upheaval would be and how destructive.
- CobrastanJorji 1mo agoMaybe it would, but I didn't say it was a good idea: I said I think people would vote for it.
- ArnoVW 1mo agoThey dont put it on the ballot because it woulndnt work. Those fortunes are not liquid, but stuck in stocks. There is no market to buy all of Amazon, or all of Tesla. Not at the current valuation. You can take their fortune, but you cant spend it. Not in 4 years.
- nxc18 2mo agoAuthor is way off base. Might as well tell me to stop breathing air, except they stopped selling air 6 years ago and I’ve been gasping ever since. Chromatica Oreos were absolutely wonderful (as far as mass produced garbage that is unfit for human consumption is concerned) and I miss them dearly. Telling me to stop eating them is like telling me to stop seeing a boyfriend who died tragically years ago. Worse, it brings up painful memories of when Oreo Coke (actually good, unlike Coke Oreo) came into my life, showed me that true love is possible, then disappeared forever in barely a month. I’m still reeling. Edit: boo, hiss!
- mhb 2mo agoYou should try Nerd Clusters!
- parsimo2010 1mo agoI really liked Selena Gomez's Oreos, but I would prefer that Oreo brought them back as "horchata flavored" or "cinnamon cream flavored" so I didn't have awkward conversations every time I accidentally said, "I like Selena Gomez flavor" and people would ask how I knew what Selena Gomez tasted like.
- ChoGGi 1mo agoI would also like to know the flavour of Selena Gomez (Oreos), those sound tasty. Yea, that's a little awkward, but what is life for if not the awkward enjoyment of a musician's flavour.
- parsimo2010 1mo agoIt's basically a cinnamon flavoring added to regular oreos. They were aiming for the taste of horchata.
- scoofy 1mo agoThere is a premise in the "selling out" scenario that assumes the artist is accepting money from a company so that company can sell more of the same -- or even a WORSE -- product using the artist to market the product. This CAN be true, and humans have a cogitative bias to remember negativity over positives. So we remember the times when the artists screwed over their fans... and hence we boo them. When marketing collaborations are used to inform people of something actually good, then they can actually be great for everyone. The best example is Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream collaborations. It's hard to communicate "no, it's hard to understand, but this blend of candies is especially worth trying," so the best way to do that is to have a celebrity vouch for it. And, what do you know, those collaborations have been wildly successful. It's hard to convince people that "putting ice cream cone in the ice cream" is surprisingly good, but if you just put Stephen Colbert on the label with a big thumbs up, most people will give it a try. Marketing can be manipulative, but it can also be very, very helpful to customers who don't have perfect information. This is exactly the point of Rory Sutherland's book Alchemy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26210508-alchemy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26210508-alchemy
- midtake 1mo agoWhy is this domain trending all of a sudden on HN? Three articles all highly upvoted.
- cwal37 1mo agoI saw the first article on thick art. This was linked within that article. I enjoyed reading both, then popped over to see if this one had ever been submitted to HN. It hadn't, so I did. Figured that if people liked the first one, they might like this one as well.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2mo agoOne of the modern problems, is that people can become [in]famous, without being rich. Not good. Needing bodyguards, and not being able to afford them, is a problem.
- Micrococonut 2mo agoBack then you didn’t want to sell out or be a poser. Now we are a society of posers.
- Quarrelsome 2mo agoI like the premise. However i think there's an angle about the death of religion. It happened before most people were ready to stop being religous. Energy went to sports teams, heretical charismatics and celebrities. I do worry that jake paul or mr beast or someone like that will become president. Oprah probably could have if she'd tried. People read one person's opinion now almost as much if not more than people read the news. I do think its on the nose about belief, people want to believe they want to be famous and can be famous and people feel less like they can be rich. I also wonder if its just counter culture though and we're due another cycle. I find it upsetting that so many people aspire to be digital beggars.
- georgemcbay 1mo ago> I do worry that jake paul or mr beast or someone like that will become president. Not that I'm happy about it or want it to continue, but we're already there, have been since 2016.
- duderific 1mo agoYou could even argue we've been there since Ronald Reagan, who was a movie actor before his political career.
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- wccrawford 1mo agoI don't care who has their name on the package. I just enjoy the different flavors. The Selena Gomez ones were great. I appreciate the different flavors occasionally, and buy them from time to time if I see them. I realize most people aren't like me. But that's even more reason to not bother to tell people this. People who like Lady Gaga are going to feel inspired to buy her Oreos, no matter what you say. They know she's already mega-rich, and they are happy to keep giving her money. You aren't going to stop that.
- parsimo2010 1mo agoI 100% agree with you. It looks like multiple people (including me) were typing comments about how good the Selena Gomez Oreos were at the same time as you. The post seems to have found a strange niche of HN, or maybe the Selena Gomez Oreos had wider appeal than I thought.
- tavavex 1mo agoThe author describes a world that existed not that long ago where similar tie-ins would still be popular, but where engaging with them would be seen by some people as a guilty pleasure or beneath you. I don't think you're going to stop Lady Gaga fans from buying Lady Gaga products, but a resurrection of some anti-consumerist crowds would be a welcome sight, because they don't seem to really exist anymore.
- _whiteCaps_ 1mo agoI don't know about Lady Gaga's Oreos but the Selena Gomez ones are quite good. I bought them as a joke and ended up liking them.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 1mo agoOne page in, and I still have no idea what the article is even meant to be about.
- post_break 1mo agoStop eating oreos because they changed the formula, the filling can now be described as white paste product, and they want $4.99 for the "family" size now. I know this isn't what the article is about, but I'm sad by what Oreos have become.
- Finnucane 1mo agoNostalgic for lard?
- ssl-3 1mo agoPerhaps, but: Lard hasn't been a part an Oreo cookie for ~30 years. (Anyone want to talk about OS/2 Warp like that's still a current event?)
- Finnucane 1mo agoYes, but the post wasn't specific about which particular change of formula they were made about.
- ssl-3 1mo agoI mean: Yes, but you introduced the concept of lard. And I'm nostalgic for lard (and for OS/2 Warp). The filling for Oreos used to just be lard that was folded together with granulated cane sugar. That's all that the white stuff was (according to a good friend of mine who made Oreos way back then, and still makes them today). It definitely was a different experience back then. So was IBM's now-completely-forgotten WebExplorer browser, especially when hacked to have 8 network threads downloading at once instead of 4. :) And that's OK. Modern Oreos are still tasty; they're just not quite the same. And the modern web experience still works, even though it is very different compared to what it was back then.
- BigTTYGothGF 1mo agoMCA wouldn't have dropped that line about not selling his songs for no tv ads if it wasn't something lots of his colleagues were doing. (And Mike D wouldn't have rhymed "commercial" with "commercial" for the same reason)
- 1970-01-01 1mo agoThe article is very good; the headline is great. AI cannot (yet) do this.
- cm2012 1mo agoI read and enjoyed this article but strongly disagree with the thesis. Oreos are as important a part of life as anything else. People have feelings, memories, and good experiences with it. Just because a big company makes them instead of a small doesn't make that any less valid. Hell, michaelangelo had to balance the art of his soul with what his patrons wanted. And the same artist can make one spiritually deep, untouched by consumerism piece and also make a music video with Mario the next week. A healthy life and mix can include both.
- miltonlost 1mo ago> The internet decapitated art criticism, elevating the YouTube commenter to the same level as the Pitchfork editor. Part of that issue is people think "reviews" and "criticism" is one and the same. Ideally, a critic places the artwork in appropriate historical context and provides analysis. But most people just want Numbers or THumbs Ups.
- BigTTYGothGF 1mo agoThe reason we got testy about selling out in the 80s and 90s was because so many people were doing it.
- felineflock 1mo agoI misread the title and was confused and appalled for a few seconds sorting through the word being "Oreos" instead of "Orgasms" and the meaning that word has in Urban Dictionary.
- Finnucane 1mo agoStop eating Lady Gaga, Oreos.
- willchis 1mo agoEat the rich, not their Oreos.
- frollogaston 1mo agoLady Gaga is also a playable character in the video game Fortnite, lol
- cm2012 1mo agoSo is Kelsier from Mistborn, Isaac from the binding of Isaac, lots of fun nerd characters
- tptacek 1mo agoI have a problem with artists doing commerce under the guise of art. I listen, I read, and I watch because I want to inhabit, even if just for a moment, the mind of another human. I want to feel what it’s like to be them, and in so doing, I want to better understand what it’s like to be me. But if I journey to the center of someone’s psyche and all I find there is a billboard for Pizza Hut, I’m turning around. Kind of sounds like they have a bigger problem with what everyone else is doing when they listen to popular music. One can simply not listen to Lady Gaga; I've succeeded at that for decades.
- moomin 1mo agoThere’s a very simple reason that artists don’t worry about selling out anymore (a phenomenon that was much more widespread than just the early 90s): the music industry finally finished their project of extracting nearly all of the money. These days, you’re more likely to have a hit because your song was in an advert than have your hit song used in an advert. Merchandising and the rest is pretty much your principal revenue stream.
- kennyadam 1mo agoThis 2014 song nails that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuQt9N4Dsok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuQt9N4Dsok
- siavosh 1mo agoTen years ago, around the time Instagram started allowing influencers to monetize their posts, I remember thinking that the bar for “selling out” had suddenly been drastically lowered. In the past, companies had to weigh a lot of factors before selling out, usually for millions of dollars. Now, an individual gig worker may, out of economic necessity, have to sell out for $500. As people become brands—or aspire to become brands—every meaningful aspect of life, from intimate family moments to vacations, is pushed toward commodification and monetization. The craving for fame becomes intertwined with that process, with each reinforcing the other. And when you're a modern equivalent to a hunter and gatherer, there's little time or (incentive) to step back and reflect on the system that led you and your cohort to this bleak place.
- sharadov 1mo agoI was in Vegas a few years back with friends. While walking the strip, notice this massive throng of kids all around us. I learned they were in town for the BTS concert. I noticed this young girl, no older than 20, wearing a Pink Floyd "Dark side of the Moon" t-shirt, I asked her what she thought of the band. To my abject dissatisfaction she responded "I bought the T-shirt because it looked cool". In that moment I a GenExer, felt a profound generational dissonance.
- ChoGGi 1mo agoThe big tongue? Yea, people do enjoy pop art.
- ssl-3 1mo agoThe big tongue is a Rolling Stones thing and was used inside the fold of their Sticky Fingers album (the outer cover for which was an Andy Warhol photograph that seems primarily focused on a gentleman's sausage and/or the tight pants that constrain it; a working zipper was an included part of this published work). Pink Floyd's popular Dark Side of the Moon artwork, meanwhile, involves an illustration of a prism splitting a beam of white light into a rainbow.
- duderific 1mo agoI see three-year-olds wearing Nirvana shirts all the time. I don't bother asking them if they prefer Bleach or Incesticide. Also a GenX'r FWIW.
- triceratops 1mo agoTo be fair it is a cool-looking cover. There's no reason to expect someone to have listened to an album released 50 years ago. That would be like upbraiding an 80s kid for not caring about Elvis.
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- pbrum 1mo agoThe author is a superb writer. Actually made me lol: "I have a problem with artists doing commerce under the guise of art. I listen, I read, and I watch because I want to inhabit, even if just for a moment, the mind of another human. I want to feel what it’s like to be them, and in so doing, I want to better understand what it’s like to be me. But if I journey to the center of someone’s psyche and all I find there is a billboard for Pizza Hut, I’m turning around. If your art is just one node in your business empire, if your albums are merely commercials for your cologne, if you’re trying to turn your first billion into your second billion, you are no longer an artist at all. You are a credit default swap with a discography attached."
- frollogaston 1mo agoNever heard of Lady Gaga's Oreos until now, don't even care about Lady Gaga, but someone telling me not to eat them is kinda making me want to try. As for the point of the article, the problem isn't that people are eating the Oreos, it's that Lady Gaga sold out. Doesn't matter how well they sell.
- superjan 1mo agoWhat also changed is bands don’t sell records any more. You got to pay the bills somehow.
- frollogaston 1mo agoMusic piracy really did a number. People like to blame cheap streaming, but it's only cheap because the market knows it can't charge very much before people pirate instead. A CD album was about $18 in the early 2000s, so $32 today.
- 1970-01-01 1mo ago>That feeling part of a larger anti-consumerist vibe percolating through culture at the time. No, now this is not how I remember it at all. It was entirely limited to that era of music. Back then, Michael Jordan got hundreds of millions on just his sneakers. Nobody dared to think he was "selling out". George Foreman grills were hot. Gretzky was into selling you quite a lot of stuff. Shaq has never stopped doing TV commercials since the 90s. https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/19950219/2105837/gretzky-ranks-among-elite-in-arena-of-endorsements https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/19950219/2105837/gr...
- duderific 1mo agoThose people are not artists though, they're athletes. I think with the word "culture" the author is mainly referring to forms of art such as movies, music, tv, and literature.
- 1970-01-01 1mo agoThere was more than plenty of names in music and tv that sold you stuff back then. https://adland.tv/diet-pepsi-ray-charles-uh-huh-you-got-right-one-baby-1991-030-usa/ https://adland.tv/diet-pepsi-ray-charles-uh-huh-you-got-righ...
- bitwize 1mo agoI thought this was going to be some anecdote about how a rival (or maybe a group of rabid fans) found a bowl of Oreos backstage at a Lady Gaga concert and ate them all just to spite her. One of the reasons why I knew the video game Mixtape was made by phonies, most of whom did not understand actual 90s culture and may not have been alive during the 90s, is because while the main characters adopt grunge aesthetics, they do not have that hyperawareness of authenticity (or lack thereof) that characterized being a teenager back then. Which is kind of fitting for a game made during an era where everything is boiled down to an "aesthetic". Being a kid in the 90s was a stance of mind, it wasn't just about what you wore or what bands you listened to. A lot of us thought we were Holden Caulfield back then, able to spot phonies and waging a quiet, desperate struggle against them for our own minds.
- fortran77 1mo agoColorful oreos are fun. A tray of these at a party would make people smile. I'm ok with it.
- soulofmischief 1mo ago> Here’s a story from 30 years ago that would make no sense today. > It’s 1992. Yep, that's enough internet for me today.
- MostlyStable 1mo agoI actually don't think we should expect artists to be something bigger or more than their art. He is right that the fix needs to be consumer driven, but I think it just needs to be that we care a lot less about celebrities of all kinds outside of whatever it is that made them famous. We shouldn't be arguing about whether whatever thing an artist or sports star did or said that wasn't related to their art and/or sport is good or bad....we should all just collectively not care. Read the book, listen to the music, watch the game, and beyond that treat these people like any other stranger: someone whose actions and opinions you do not care about. Celebrity themed oreos shouldn't be a thing, but not because we demand our celebrities think of themselves as above crass commercialism, but because no one would consider "celebrity themed" to be anything even remotely close to a selling point for oreos, and that therefore there is no value in them being hired by Nabisco. But I may as well be pissing in the wind. Celebrity worship seems to be incredibly deeply ingrained in human psychology. Maybe he's right that we can't get rid of it, we can just change the norms around it.
- techgnosis 1mo agoWell, you are for sure right that the root of the problem is celebrity itself, but I do wonder if that's really unfixable. Are there cultures that celebrate celebrity less than others, I wonder?
- nater5000 1mo ago>Saying that some art is better than other art started sounding too much like saying that some people are better than other people. I think this is a more important line than the author even appreciates. It's complex, but it's easy to see that people have generally leveraged the label of "art" is a defense against criticism, and it usually takes this form. If someone likes to listen to whatever clearly "trashy" pop music is famous at the moment, they have learned that they don't need to feel shame for doing so- all they have to do is call it art and all of a sudden they're absolved of all the negative connotations associated with the consumerist aspects of that music. Of course, it's not hard to recognize that if you're willing to call anything made by a person "art," then the concept of "art" will have lost all meaning. Sure, the newest Marvel movie was engineered by a huge team of professionals who designed it to generate as much profit as possible, but there's a human involved who likely put some creative effort into the project, therefore it is art and it is absolved of any criticism that doesn't treat it as such. >I think this is why we now tolerate such blatant greed among famous people: we think we have a chance of becoming one of them. We once saw ourselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires; now we see ourselves as temporarily unknown celebrities. I don't buy this exactly. I think it's more like: people associate their being so personally with celebrities that they feel as though they're already almost famous themselves just by being their fan. It's the "parasocial" dynamic that people have been recognizing more and more. I think this does end up cropping up in the form of leveraging fandom to make yourself a celebrity (e.g., the fans that appear the most obsessed are the same ones who can be known for being the fans which are the most obsessed), but I don't think that is the core motivation. >If we want this to stop, the solution is simple: we have to stop eating Lady Gaga’s Oreos. We have to stop pretending that celebrities are just like us, and that their success is our success. We have to redraw the line between art and entertainment, and more importantly, we have to redraw the line between art and advertisement. This is the "fun" part of all of this. If "we" need to do something to stop this, then "we" are fucked. People are in way too deep at this point to turn this around anytime soon in any meaningful way. The reality is that "you" need to do what is best for "you" and to recognize that the huge swaths of the population who are addicted to consumerism on this level should be treated similarly to how we treat people addicted to drugs or gambling: have pity, try to help them help themselves, but ultimately don't let them drag you down with them. This might seem overly dramatic, but this dynamic does come with a huge cost: literally money. If you're spending your money on overpriced bullshit, then you're no longer able to spend or invest that money on things that can have a much greater ROI (where that return may be in the form of money, or it could be more meaningful experiences, things that make you genuinely happy, etc.). Just the same, all of these products detract from your capacity to experience in general. When you're spending any amount of your capacity thinking about, consuming, discussing, etc., Lady Gaga's Oreos, then that as capacity not spent on things that matter much more. The worst part is that this isn't limited to people irrationally consuming celebrity endorsed products. Right now, you're reading my comment about some dumb post on a dumb website where my point doesn't matter. You're consuming this instead of spending your time being productive. Embarrassingly, I've sunk way more time into this comment than you have reading it, so I'm not any better off. But I like to think I'm getting something more meaningful out of this than just mindlessly consuming products made for the lowest common denominator (even if it is just marginal), so at least I can feel a bit superior in that regard.
- tavavex 1mo agoI think the author exaggerates how much artists were shunned for selling out in the past - sellout pop culture has always existed to some degree. The bigger issue is the almost complete vanishing of a counterculture. There's almost no people who understand why someone's random collabs with every company ever could ever be seen in a negative light.
- robotnikman 1mo ago"Turn customers into fanatics Products into obsessions Employees into ambassadors And brands into religions"
- kazinator 1mo ago> I gained consciousness at about the time that Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, and the Spice Girls gained worldwide fame, and I understood that it was hip to hate them Hey, Gen X dudes, who was your favorite spice? Posh? Sporty? For me ... LTSpice all the way. Just fake the circuit, not the smile, personality or relationship, ya know? Bode plot over bodacious.
- arkaic 1mo agoI just wish Redbar radio would return. He was a true embodiment of the punk ethos in the niche world of comedy / entertainment podcasting. Never selling out to the ad revenue or collabs, staying off YouTube and other platforms, resisting the call of Kanye's team when they reached out about his stellar cover of Cousins.
- kazinator 1mo agoIf "OREO Speedwagon" cookies came out, that would be boomer cringe to the max.
- isthatafact 1mo agoOreo changed their recipe to cardboard flavor relatively recently, within the past decade or so. My question is whether they really changed the recipe again to now taste like music instead of cardboard, or is it just clever marketing in a shiny smaller package?
- insane_dreamer 1mo agoReminds me of a recent article I read about an actor (whose name I don't remember) who had a decent career (but not very famous) quitting as he said that the job has basically become self-promotion via social media instead of practicing a craft (in other words, being popular on social media gets you the gigs).