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- yipinwong 1mo agoWho is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?
- tuna74 1mo agoI think it is mostly "marketing" for Igalia's services. If you want to pay people to do "stuff" in Linux and adjacent projects like Mesa, Igalia seems very competent.
- usr1106 1mo agoExactly. My immediate reaction was: A violation of HN submission guidelines. Linux is project of many contributors / companies. For sure Igalia is a valuable contributor and I would not doubt to recommend them for serious Linux work, but this "article" is pure marketing. https://lwn.net/Articles/1088991/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1088991/ has all the relevant links. Probably somewhwere there is also a more detailed "neutral" article.
- bkardell 1mo agoWe publish something about all the work Igalia has contributed with each release. Fwiw, we didn't submit this ourselves, but it's cool someone thought it was interesting enough to share. In context, the title is fine, but as shared I can definitely understand the confusion.
- sph 1mo agoIt's a well-formatted changelog of the most salient features of the release. Linus doesn't provide one apart from a list of added commits and merged branches, which isn't very useful unless you are a kernel developer.
- NewJazz 1mo agoThis isn't quite right. This is a well-formatted changelog of the changes that Igalia has contributed to the release, AFAICT. KernelNewbies publishes a much more general summary of changes (it is much longer than this one). https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxVersions https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxVersions
- cassepipe 1mo agoWhat great resource thank you ! This new thing is pretty cool : =USB4STREAM for streaming data with USB4= In addition to Thunderbolt networking, which was already supported, this release adds support for streaming data directly over a cable as well (USB4STREAM). It is very simple and basically just transfers raw packets from one host to another. The driver exposes /dev/tbstreamX devices on each side of the link that can be used to transfer data using regular filesystem operations such as read(2) and write(2): host1 # cat /dev/tbstream0 host2 # echo hello > /dev/tbstream0 This can be useful in cases where network tooling is not available or just for existing applications like dd and cat that do not support sockets. This feature can be used at the same time with thunderbolt_net so they don't rule each other out, and it allows multiple streams to be created.
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- realityking 1mo agoIt only covers changes made by Igalia devs. For a more general changelog I’d recommend the LWN articles: https://lwn.net/Articles/1078068/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1078068/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1078539/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1078539/
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- gchamonlive 1mo agoI don't think there is much too it, it's a consulting firm. Would you hire a consulting firm with an empty tech blog portifolio? It's ticking a box, it's stating it's a consulting firm in tech, that it's target audience are companies with Linux machines etc...
- yipinwong 1mo agoty. so very narrow audicence it seems. Per @sph, as Linus provide no changelog, seems like the firm is putting it together for others
- gchamonlive 1mo agoWouldn't have HN any other way. For better or worse, it's the best sorta proving grounds for writers. Pass the trial of fire and chances are you did something right. I'd count my losses and move on happy that it hit front page.
- seba_dos1 1mo agoIt's not a Linux 7.2 changelog, it's a list of things Igalia worked on that's included in this release.
- igleria 1mo agohi audience, we know about this stuff you use on a daily basis, you may be interested in our executive summary of the latest release of the stuff
- Retr0id 1mo agoI for one am excited about HDMI 2.1 support on AMD.
- seanw444 1mo agoIt's more than that: free and open support for HDMI 2.1 in general. Previously it was only proprietary implementations that didn't leak the spec which were allowed. AMD is just the only one that has really good open source drivers which can benefit from it, and didn't work around the problem by converting HDMI to DisplayPort in a proprietary on-board GPU chip.
- yipinwong 1mo agoOK, now this is what I wanted to know as well. I was not aware that changelogs show all this inf. ty for sharing
- farlight 1mo agoAs a long time desktop and server user, why do I look at changelogs... New filesystems and major changes to existing ones (large performance improvements, new features like adding better compression standards which I now know I can use, fixes to long-standing bugs which open new use cases). New protocols like wireguard when it was new and exciting (still is now that I think of it). When that was mainlined, I knew I had some network rearchitecting to do. New device drivers like amdgpu when it was massive news. Less so these days since most hardware is well supported, and I don't buy the absolute latest. New kernel APIs which I can use in my programs — like landlock, when it was merged I knew it was time to improve sandboxing in some of my stuff. Though LWN and kernel newbies do it best, already linked by others.
- smashed 1mo agoI'd say mostly sys admins type users that want to stay on top of things? I install Linux on a wide variety of hardware for both work and personal reasons. I don't read the detailed changelogs religiously but after years of paying some attention to them I can understand most of it and see where the industry is investing developer efforts, what cool new hardware is gaining support and what new security or performance features people are focusing on.
- trashface 1mo agoI look for wake from sleep fixes, nvidia the primary offender there (they have at least two bugs affecting it across several driver versions). But my intel wifi driver (BE200) also has an apparent hard lock on wake. Looks like this particular release doesn't have any fixes for me, though claude says its not the full change list.
- jorvi 1mo agoIntel has a specific series of integrated network cards that softlock themselves and you can only fix by disconnecting power for 30s, reconnecting the power, then rebooting the PC twice. Living through that made me wonder why people would ever swap out their Broadcom or Atheros WiFi card for an Intel one.
- elabajaba 1mo agoIt happens on MediaTek wifi adapter cards as well (and the AMD ones that are just rebadged MediaTek).
- aoli-al 1mo agoI'm using a recently released laptop, and Linux hardware support hasn't caught up yet. So I've been following the changelogs of recent kernel releases to understand the current state of support.
- sho_hn 1mo ago> Who is the main audience for this type of content? I make technology decisions at a large embedded shop that makes cars. Content like this tells me Igalia has serious programmers and is relevant upstream. The memory sticks. It's also informative, which makes me feel good. They're a consultancy. It's good for business.
- badgersnake 1mo agoYou only come here for the AI hype blogs?
- shepherdjerred 1mo agoIt’s intrinsically interesting
- lukeify 1mo agoIt's the sort of content I expect to see on HackerNews, rather than popular science/technology-type journalism.
- mort96 1mo agoDoes anyone understand how HDMI 2.1 support is now no problem? I remember that 2.1 support in AMD's open source driver was blocked by the HDMI forum, but I haven't heard any news about them unblocking it. What changed?
- lashkari 1mo agoIt doesn't give any specifics about what changed on the HDMI Forum side, but this article [0] from June indicates that Valve worked closely with AMD to get it pushed through prior to the release of the Steam Machine (which supports HDMI 2.1 VRR). [0] https://www.digitalfoundry.net/news/2026/06/valves-hdmi-2-1-saga-is-fully-resolved-with-a-final-frl-update-to-come-for-full-4k-240hz-support https://www.digitalfoundry.net/news/2026/06/valves-hdmi-2-1-...
- seanw444 1mo agoAs far as I can recall: some internal implementation documentation leaked which made the legal position tougher for them somehow to protect it as proprietary (it made sense when I heard it explained, but now I feel like I'm missing an important detail to that), and then Valve had some talks with the HDMI Forum to convince them to let it go, presumably so they could have such support integrated into Linux for their hardware (Deck, Machine, Frame, etc). So now the HDMI Forum just doesn't really care anymore I guess.
- gary_0 1mo agoIIRC, a non-AMD contributor was working on adding HDMI 2.1 support to Linux's AMD driver, and then AMD managed to get the HDMI Forum to see that their position was moot and was making things very awkward for AMD.
- mort96 1mo agoOh this makes sense! Obviously, it can't be illegal for a non-forum-member to add HDMI support; it's just an HDMI forum policy after all, not law. That's certainly the link I was missing for this to make sense.
- OtomotO 1mo agoOkay, so ELI 5 why I would now use HDMI instead of DP? All my monitors support DP, my GPU has more ports for DP ... I am genuinely interested as I've never even considered using HDMI for my Desktop.
- drdexebtjl 1mo agoIf you’re using a TV. They rarely have DP ports.
- a96 1mo agoAlso amplifiers and capture devices generally only do HDMI. I haven't looked at projectors, lately, but HDMI is The Standard and a desktop computer display is the only exception.
- ThatPlayer 1mo agoHDMI 2.1 carries more bandwidth than DisplayPort 1.4. Plenty of GPU/monitors have that port arrangement, as recent as Nvidia's RTX 40 Series.
- preisschild 1mo agoYeah but this is for amdgpu and they had DP2.1 support for a while now.
- ThatPlayer 1mo agoThat doesn't help when the monitors don't have DP2.1 support.
- preisschild 1mo agoI havent seen a monitor (besides tvs) that has HDMI2.1 but not DP2.1
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- bigwheels 1mo agoWhy is DRM being implemented in the Kernel; What is the profile for an end-user who wants this in their FOSS?
- lultimouomo 1mo agoDifferent DRM, the one in the kernel is Direct Rendering Manager, which is basically managing access to the GPU.
- dralley 1mo agoDRM = Direct Rendering Manager. GPU scheduling.
- telotortium 1mo agoHere it doesn’t mean “digital rights management”, but “Direct Rendering Manager”, a component of the kernel’s graphics stack: https://docs.kernel.org/gpu/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://docs.kernel.org/gpu/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
- Lorkki 1mo agoThis is DRM as in Direct Rendering Manager, which is the kernel interface to GPU hardware; not Digital Rights Management.
- cogman10 1mo agoNamed long before Digital Rights Management was a thing (or at least the 3 letter acronym existed for it).
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- Shish2k 1mo agoThe Direct Rendering Manager is useful for any Linux user who wants to display things on a monitor (unless you're happy with like 640x480 VESA, in which case maybe you don't need it)
- sbinnee 1mo agoI clicked this one with no hype. I am now exited to update the kernel of my raspberry pi 4.
- pkilgore 1mo agoWhat about this is more interesting than the LWN coverage?
- ColdStream 1mo agoIt is funny with Linux (the kernel). From the outside it looks like almost nothing ever changes. You switch the computer on, it works away in the background to bring up the desktop and have everything talk. From that perspective it feels like nothing has changed in decades. But then you look at the change log, and almost everything you see added sounds really useful to someone working on this stuff. 35 years of work on this and there is still so much to be done even if you most people using it never directly feel it.
- reisse 1mo agoStrongly disagree. Hardware support improved by leaps and bounds last decade and a half. Namespace isolation and cgroups driven containerization. eBPF appeared and gained adoption. Async I/O (and later just everything async) converged on io_uring. Btrfs is _stable_ - some people believed it would never be possible, ever. All kinds of scheduling were iterated and iterated over. All these things are visible across the board, both from developers and end users side.
- Mond_ 1mo agoI run Linux as my primary operating system and I have never even heard of eBPF! I'd be surprised if most end users have.
- truncate 1mo agoSeems like parent thread spoke from perspective of developer/tech savvy person. But even from end-user perspective, maybe its hard to see change when you compare one year or so, but over somewhat longer period I definitely see improvements. Over say a decade or so, wifi/bluetooth/trackpad support has significantly improved. Over last 5 years, I think gaming has become huge and you can actually use Linux as gaming machine. In last 3 years or so, I think I've seen my 5k display using Thunderbolt work much better. Fractional scaling also works much nicer. NVIDIA GPUs are not shitty to use on Linux, and AMD has been working great for slightly longer. UEFI/TPM works much better now as well, where I don't have to worry about booting in legacy mode when using GPU drivers. I didn't have to think about any of these above. If I think harder, I can likely come up with many more.
- IshKebab 1mo agoI just want them to make memory management sane. Is that too much to ask? OOM shouldn't cause a hard reboot. Ok actually I "solved" this by upgrading to 128GB of RAM (before the rampocalypse), but still they should fix it.
- throwawayqqq11 1mo agoHave you considered zram/swap? Since running it, i have never seen mem usage > 95%, even under absurd workloads and have never been oom-killed ever since.
- worldsavior 1mo agoDon't you get slower performance in some cases?
- kjs3 1mo agoYes, but for many (not all) it's better than OOM killing your processes.
- IshKebab 1mo agoI did try that back when I only had 32GB. They definitely helped (especially swap) but didn't completely eliminate the problem. I don't know how they do it but I've never had a single issue with OOMs on Windows or Mac. I know Windows doesn't overcommit and it has a proper ctrl-alt-del to let you actually control killing processes if you need to... I'm not sure what Mac does.
- NekkoDroid 1mo agoEvery time I OOM on Windows my Laptop just becomes completely unresponsive excluding the hardware cursor (it is the only thing still movable, everything else is frozen in time), ctrl-alt-del does fuck all until the system becomes responsive again. The worst part is, this isn't limited to OOM, but generally when my disk is hammered with high I/O (e.g. caused by thrashing).
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- Alien1Being 1mo agoLinux is so very predictably stable from a desktop user perspective . It is an absolute pleasure to use , particularly when combined with TUI applications like yazi, lsd, fzf , neovim etc Been using it since the early nineties . At work I use Windows Server 2025 as my desktop ( the alternative would be the dreadful AI infested Windows 11). While Windows Server 2025 is not dreadful , the Linux experience is so much nicer .