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> “ Smokers don't magically undo the damage they did to their lungs after they stop smoking” Except that they do undo the damage. “ After 15 years, your chanc
by anon48293 2mo ago
> “ Smokers don't magically undo the damage they did to their lungs after they stop smoking”
Except that they do undo the damage.
“ After 15 years, your chances of getting lung cancer are almost the same as someone who has never smoked.”
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/lung-cancer/prevention/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/lung-cancer/prevention/
- bryanlarsen 2mo ago4x the rate is "almost the same"??? https://www.verywellhealth.com/risk-of-lung-cancer-in-former-smokers-3971884 https://www.verywellhealth.com/risk-of-lung-cancer-in-former...
- denismenace 2mo agoThe lifetime risk is approximately 1.3% for women and 1.8% for men. For regular smokers: 11.2% for women and 14.8% for men. So about 15 to 30 more likely to get lung cancer. Bringing that down to 4x is close to "almost the same".
- throw310822 2mo agoMight be that I am not reading probabilities correctly, but how do 1.3% -> 11.2% and 1.8% -> 15% become "15 to 30 times more likely"? Sounds like less then ten times?
- denismenace 2mo agoGood catch, wrote this on the go. The first stat is a study on Canadians, the second is from another source which is global.
- anon48293 2mo agoNo. But that only looks at heavy smokers and duration they stopped, so overselects for old age with higher cancer incidence. This study looks more broadly, notably also at onset of smoking: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/fullarticle/2784990 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/fullarticle/27... And this is the TL;DR: “ Thus, those who quit smoking at ages 15 to 34, 35 to 44, 45 to 54, and 55 to 64 years avoided an estimated 100%, 89%, 78%, and 56% of the excess cancer mortality risk associated with continued smoking, respectively”