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Wow, this is ridiculous. Sites that have been running on Cloudflare for a decade+ silently got the treatment. Why the hell was there never a big banner telling

by oefrha 2mo ago

Wow, this is ridiculous. Sites that have been running on Cloudflare for a decade+ silently got the treatment. Why the hell was there never a big banner telling me about this? I frequently log into the console. I get it that by being on the free plan (well I do pay for Registrar), I'm the product, but I also converted employers to paying customers of yours based on goodwill. This just destroyed about all of that, among other things. If I haven't given a damn about "powerful, in-depth monitoring solution that helps you debug and optimize applications" in over a decade, I certainly won't suddenly be "excited" about it when you sneakily inject it.

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justsomehnguy 2mo ago
You can contract your comment to "I'm the product" and nothing would actually change.
mlrtime 2mo ago
You get something for free, they announce it and you complain about not having a bigger announcement? If they had the banner and you missed it [or someone else] they would complain about the banner not being big enough.
- oefrha 2mo ago
  > they announce it Forgive me for not subscribing to their blog? That's not how you announce changes to customers. Using a Level 7 CDN is based on trust. This is not a trustworthy action, period.
  - _joel 2mo ago
    If you're running infrastructure you care about, you really need to own the responsibility of keeping up to date with what you're supporting. Free or not.
  - bunbun69 2mo ago
    Protest RIGHT NOW, not by complaining here but by getting rid of Cloudflare This is unacceptable
    - polymer8563 2mo ago
      or... hear me out, do BOTH
  - ChoGGi 2mo ago
    It was on hacker news, back when they blogged it. Nobody cared: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291323 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291323
    - tdeck 2mo ago
      > The RUM Diaries: Enabling Web Analytics by Default With that title not many people clicked on it. I'm not surprised.
  - troyvit 2mo ago
    Maybe you're right. The important thing is to remember this moment the next time you're signing up for a free product that seems just a little too good to be true.
- taspeotis 2mo ago
  I bet those decade+ sites have been silently upgraded to TLS 1.3 too! Where are the complaints for that?
  - altairprime 2mo ago
    On other forums than HN, but they surely do exist; check xda-developers, perhaps, for complaints from ancient Android users, as a theoretical sample of how to find them. Regardless, that’s one of the three certain customer outcomes when providing off-the-shelf services to human beings — free or not: it’s too expensive (in money and/or effort!), it doesn’t precisely fit their needs, and change is bad.

by oefrha 2mo ago

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justsomehnguy 2mo ago

You can contract your comment to "I'm the product" and nothing would actually change.

mlrtime 2mo ago

You get something for free, they announce it and you complain about not having a bigger announcement? If they had the banner and you missed it [or someone else] they would complain about the banner not being big enough.

oefrha 2mo ago
> they announce it Forgive me for not subscribing to their blog? That's not how you announce changes to customers. Using a Level 7 CDN is based on trust. This is not a trustworthy action, period.
- _joel 2mo ago
  If you're running infrastructure you care about, you really need to own the responsibility of keeping up to date with what you're supporting. Free or not.
- bunbun69 2mo ago
  Protest RIGHT NOW, not by complaining here but by getting rid of Cloudflare This is unacceptable
  - polymer8563 2mo ago
    or... hear me out, do BOTH
- ChoGGi 2mo ago
  It was on hacker news, back when they blogged it. Nobody cared: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291323 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291323
  - tdeck 2mo ago
    > The RUM Diaries: Enabling Web Analytics by Default With that title not many people clicked on it. I'm not surprised.
- troyvit 2mo ago
  Maybe you're right. The important thing is to remember this moment the next time you're signing up for a free product that seems just a little too good to be true.
taspeotis 2mo ago
I bet those decade+ sites have been silently upgraded to TLS 1.3 too! Where are the complaints for that?
- altairprime 2mo ago
  On other forums than HN, but they surely do exist; check xda-developers, perhaps, for complaints from ancient Android users, as a theoretical sample of how to find them. Regardless, that’s one of the three certain customer outcomes when providing off-the-shelf services to human beings — free or not: it’s too expensive (in money and/or effort!), it doesn’t precisely fit their needs, and change is bad.