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5th Heat Dome Expands Across Europe: 40°C+ Target Western and Central Europe
- Devasta 2mo agoEnjoy it while it lasts; it'll never be this cool again.
- H8crilA 2mo agoNot if Count Binface wins the elections. First the UK, then leadership of Europe via behind-closed-doors politics, then a gentle colonization of both the east and the west using our amazing cheese, bread that is baked rather than synthesized from fossil fuels, and 30 days of paid vacations per year. The path forward is clear.
- geye1234 2mo agoAnd he'll pay for this by "putting up everyone's taxes except yours"!
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- thibaut_barrere 2mo agoJust in France, cost of this year heat waves has been estimated between 10 and 15 billion euros (figure shared by a ministre today).
- wing-_-nuts 2mo agoNot to mention the cost of premature deaths of children and the elderly who don't deal with heat as well
- antonvs 2mo agoThat's the value of a single third-tier AI startup.
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- scottLobster 2mo ago[flagged]
- bestouff 2mo agoThat was just mean.
- vrganj 2mo agoAC is a bandaid that only makes the systemic problem worse. I don't know how it's become such a culture war gotcha. Yes, I have AC myself and yes, it makes things more bearable. But it won't refill our rivers, it won't make the outside livable, it won't regrow our crops, it won't refreeze the glaciers and poles, it won't unburn the forests. In short, it won't be able to provide the conditions required for human survival. To do that, we can't avoid fixing the root cause. Every time we have a conversation about the effects of climate change, somebody derails it with "but AC!"... Its not constructive or helpful.
- criddell 2mo ago> AC is a bandaid Realistically, what else can be done to deal with the impact of climate change right now? Addressing the root cause would be great, but it's not going to move the needle for people suffering today.
- fl4regun 2mo agomass investment in renewable energy across the globe. You can't do much for the people of today, but you can do plenty of good for people 20+ years into the future. Something about planting and sitting in their shade.
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- justin66 2mo agoCharacterizing technology whose presence or absence will affect the survival of a lot of people as a “bandaid” is not going to advance the dialog in the way you seem to want.
- Y-bar 2mo agoIf we ever manage to halt this accelerating crisis we should seriously consider a modern-day equivalent of the Nuremberg trials. Thousands upon thousands needlessly dead, https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152766 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152766 (from 2024)
- sam_lowry_ 2mo agoSatoshi would be first in line?
- tensor 2mo agoNo, excessive fossil fuel use is the cause by an immense margin. It's completely dominated by commercial shipping (boats), followed by planes. Then I think it may actually be gas from cattle before cars. Bitcoin and AI are so recent and still relative to everything else small.
- esafak 2mo agoIs that so? Too bad nuclear civilian ships are not common. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_marine_propulsion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_marine_propulsion
- vel0city 2mo agoI really feel like if the US really wanted to support US shipbuilding (like what the Jones act was supposed to do) it would subsidize building a fleet of nuclear shipping boats. Lots of manufacturing projects, lots of related industries boosted, a renewed investment in nuclear engineering bringing a lot of nuclear job experience, and a way to potentially dig deeper into the backbone of global trade again.
- scottLobster 2mo agoI love the theory, but the security concerns around nuclear anything are a big deal when we're talking ships that sail around the world. Imagine if even one of the tankers hit in the strait of Hormuz was nuclear.
- wing-_-nuts 2mo agoI've been reading up on the inevitable collapse of the AMOC (the potsdam institute has a number of really good videos covering the subject). Everyone hears 'winters will be up to 10C cooler', but few realize that this will also cause the jet stream to be more wavy, and exacerbate the number of heat waves as well. Sad that europe's mild climate is about to get a whole lot worse...
- user43928 2mo agoI do not think a collapse is inevitable, see: https://climatetippingpoints.info/2026/05/06/news-explainer-is-the-amoc-closer-to-collapse-than-thought/ https://climatetippingpoints.info/2026/05/06/news-explainer-...
- conception 2mo agoWhat in that link do you think is saying it is not inevitable?
- user43928 2mo agoEven if you read just the conclusion at the bottom it seems obvious that there is no consensus about a collapse being inevitable: > Overall though, there is some common ground in recent research: evidence for AMOC weakening having begun is growing, albeit is not clear in every AMOC metric; a substantial decline is expected with current emissions, that over centuries could potentially push the AMOC to a slow ‘shutdown’ state; and there remains a real but uncertain chance that this slowdown could pass a tipping point beyond which this shutdown is locked in, even if warming is halted or even declines. Exactly how much and quickly the AMOC is weakening, and the likelihood of it reaching a tipping point, remain much more uncertain, but what we do know is enough to justify concern and action to reduce the risk of AMOC shutdown
- wing-_-nuts 2mo agoI am just repeating the 'gist' I've gotten from my research on the topic, but the risk of AMOC shutdown has gone from a low probability / high impact prediction by 2100, to 'we think there's a strong chance of hitting a tipping point by 2060'. I wish I could point you to a specific paper, but I'm going entirely off memory, and that is fallible The % likelyhood by x date predictions have swayed back and forth as we've adjusted our predictions of which emissions path we actually wind up following.
- 12as109q 2mo agoMore data centers for plagiarizing code and solving 10 unimportant Erdos problems per year will fix this!
- myrmidon 2mo agoErasing any datacenter ever built (and planned) would do almost nothing to stop climate change. What we need is (global) electrification of transport and heating, CO2 free electricity and CO2 neutral concrete and steel. Very effective ways to make this happen would be high prices on emissions, enforced on every local industry and all imports. But too many people love their cheap fossil-based transport too much and are unwilling to make even small sacrifices to keep the climate stable; sad reality.
- athrowaway3z 2mo agoIf only Al Gore warned us about AI as well! /s Thinking these are at their current level relevant to climate change, is a level of ignorance that I'd almost put on a tin-foil hat to discuss how the fossil industry is feeding an anti-AI campaign of ignorance.
- jp57 2mo agoThe warming is terrible and deadly, AND ALSO Europeans are negligent in not protecting themselves however they can. The idea that Europe could slow warming by not using air-conditioning is absurd, when the emissions mostly come from elsewhere. France, in particular, gets most of its energy from nuclear power, but also makes it very hard to get climatisation.
- Arodex 2mo ago>Europeans are negligent in not protecting themselves however they can. Well, if the people in charge say or think global warming isn't real, that's what you get: not "other" solutions to the "unacceptable propositions" the Green parties suggest, but no proposition at all, as there is no problem. The current situation is a direct consequence of pure negationism from conservative parties, not a disagreement on how to deal with climate change between the Right and the Left. The Left proposed solutions you may not agree with, but the Right has been completely rejecting the reality of climate change. BTW, how do you propose Europe protect not only people from the heat, but also forests from burning, rivers from drying up, fields from being unfit for cows and sheep, lakes from blooming with algae, nuclear plants from being shut down due to river water being too hot and seawater being full of jellyfish, etc, etc, etc? In the end, there are so many things to "adapt" that it would cost less to try to organize a global effort to lower CO2.
- jp57 2mo ago[H]ow do you propose Europe protect not only people from the heat, but [all these other things]? Why does it have to be framed as all-or-nothing? I agree that using air conditioning to reduce the number of people who die from the heat does nothing to help with the problem of jellyfish, but how is that relevant, exactly?
- Arodex 2mo agoYour AC isn't going to work when your power plants are stuffed with jellyfish and have to shut down.
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- atoav 2mo agoFor as long as I remember I never had a summer this warm and this dry. And I don't even have to rely on memory alone here as this is backed by actual historic measurements all the way back since humans started to record temperatures in my countries. Locations: Southern Austria and Northern Germany
- Insanity 2mo agoYou do realize North Macedonia is not representative of all EU countries, and that other EU countries have abnormal heat waves compared to the 90s? With effects like the first pyrocumulonimbus in France's recorded history? I think denying climate change and it's impact in the face of all evidence is something hard to justify lol.
- Arodex 2mo agoGood thing we have more reliable data than your memory: https://doma.edu.mk/en/research-and-education/macedonia-and-climate-change-from-a-birds-eye-view/ https://doma.edu.mk/en/research-and-education/macedonia-and-...
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- javcasas 2mo agoFor as long as I can remember, I turned off the lights in the bathroom. Yet, I just checked, and turns out they are on. Feel free to remember the past how you want, that doesn't change it.
- yread 2mo agoIt will probably be warm but this is from the GFS model that was forecasting 50 degrees during the last heat wave. Apparently, it tends to "overegg temperature projections for Europe in the summer by around 2-2.5c. ... it dries out soil too fast in its models." https://www.reddit.com/r/weather/comments/1um7tyn/sometimes_models_come_up_with_extremely_unlikely/ https://www.reddit.com/r/weather/comments/1um7tyn/sometimes_...
- b800h 2mo agoThe soil is quite dry already.
- Arodex 2mo agoThis is a two week forecast, one month ago. There is no good two week forecast. There is a heat wave right now, again.
- yread 2mo agoExactly! The reddit link is from a run from one month ago, predicting that the previous heatwave will be 49 degrees. Now we know that it was "just" 43 or so. So we know that this model tends to overestimate the temperature
- inglor_cz 2mo agoAs of now, our worst problem in Central Europe seems to be drought. Some of the mightiest rivers of the continent are barely there. You can walk across the Danube, the Rhine or the Wisla in some places, drenching yourself a bit, but never losing contact with the bottom.
- Noaidi 2mo agoThe Po River is drying up as well... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/environment/2026/08/10/climate-change/italy-po-river-farmers-crop/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/environment/2026/08/10/climate-...
- Noaidi 2mo agoThis is a harbinger for insane weather in the United States this fall and winter. I am expecting my homeless life in in minivan to be choatic trying to chase where the weather will be favorable. My main concern if is there is heavy rains in California after the drought of rain they have had this summer. The Salton Sea is at an all time low[1] and many people do not know that a rapid fill of water into the Salton Sea from the Cochella Valley is a known trigger for earthquakes on the San Jacinto and San Andreas Faults[2][3]. [1] https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/USGS-10254005/#dataTypeId=continuous-62615-0&period=P365D&showMedian=true&showFieldMeasurements=true https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/USGS-10254005... [2] https://www.sdsu.edu/news/2023/07/drying-salton-sea-has-staved-off-earthquakes-for-now https://www.sdsu.edu/news/2023/07/drying-salton-sea-has-stav... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXqOn0GILtA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXqOn0GILtA Adding... https://subjecttoclimate.org/news/study-las-earthquake-risk-may-rise-and-fall-with-height-of-saltwater-lake https://subjecttoclimate.org/news/study-las-earthquake-risk-...
- Noaidi 2mo ago"2027 is likely to be WAY worse than this 2026 in terms of extreme heat, drought, fires, crop losses. WAY worse. In the Northern hemisphere, we have half a year to prepare for next summer and save some lives. Everyone is acting like 2026 is a blip. No: far worse is to come." https://nitter.catsarch.com/JKSteinberger/status/2087403432961245342#m https://nitter.catsarch.com/JKSteinberger/status/20874034329...
- fl4regun 2mo agoSeems likely that within our lifetime multiple countries in europe may turn into deserts, and there is little we can do against it except for maybe attempt to terraform the climate by seeding clouds or changing ecosystem flora to something resilient in the face of 40C weather. Losing a huge amount of food production would be my greatest concern.
- karmakurtisaani 2mo agoThe thing is, we could survive with a lot less food production. We just don't want to, since animal flesh is so tasty.
- KingTravis 2mo agoIt's not targeting the area though is it? It's not like someone is moving this dome across to Europe and saying "Yeah, take that, that'll show 'em".
- throwaway_7274 2mo agoSomehow, somehow, everyone’s heads are still in the sand. Desperately trying to bury them deeper. It’s like CICO denialism. I expect this to be a deeply unpopular take here, but solutionism will fail. Magic technology will not come to save us. All of our industrial tekhne has been in the service of rolling down the stored-energy hill faster and faster. To put the genie back in the bottle, to take apart the CO2 and turn it back into hydrocarbons, we’d have to do more work than everything that was done in the last two centuries. And that’s an extremely conservative lower bound. It’s so dire. I don’t think most people understand that everything around them is made out of petroleum. Not just your ability to travel, or your clothes. Your food is made of petroleum. Your institutions are made of petroleum. Your gender equality is made of petroleum. Your freedom is made of petroleum. There is no putting this thing in reverse. If the AI doesn’t get us first, thermodynamics will topple all of this.
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- kldavis4 2mo agoWhile it is true that reversing combustion would require more energy than was released burning it, I don't think anyone reasonable is proposing it. The proposal is to redirect future energy production away from fossil extraction and into cleaner sources (solar, wind, nuclear, geothermal) which is a completely different thermodynamic problem. The constraints are things like grid storage capacity, permitting timelines, and critical mineral supply chains - not physics. If we overcome these very real contraints, we reduce the rate of new additions to atmospheric CO2. We will still need to do the thermodynamically hard work of removing CO2 at gigaton scale, but deferring that until removal tech is more mature is the right sequencing. Of course, this assumes that we are actually working towards the CO2 output reductions right now and really committed to CO2 removal in the near future.
- fittingopposite 2mo ago> Your gender equality is made of petroleum. That is the weirdest and wokest comment I read this year on the internet. Could you please explain?
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- mo7061 2mo agoJust ask yourself if your wealth was tied to sp500 would you be ok with it dropping? Well then green house gases rising I don’t give a shit