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I find this funny and interesting at some levels 1. Codex, Claude and others try to switch models being used at their level itself to manage the cost and outco

I find this funny and interesting at some levels 1. Codex, Claude and others try to switch models being used at their level itself to manage the cost and outcomes 2. Now company like data bricks develops one more layer on the top of it to do the same task, of finding the base harness and applicable model Companies like Codex and Claude are focussing/investing heavily on to ensure that people are using their harness directly or instead use APIs. Unless Databricks has some agreement in place they are violating the TOS and openly publishing an article about it. Would be interesting if openAi or Anthropic come back and claim for the API usage prices and all the savings go away.

justincormack 2mo ago
Databricks will be using the API anyway, thats all you get with an enterprise agreement.
ChoosesBarbecue 2mo ago
... where in the article did they say they were using subscriptions? I'm fairly certain enterprises can't access subscription pricing in any case, they're all API costs (Anthropic doesn't support more than 150 on subscription pricing [0][1]). [0]: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797531-what-is-the-enterprise-plan https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797531-what-is-the-e... [1]: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9266767-what-is-the-team-plan https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9266767-what-is-the-t...
- sandeepkd 2mo ago
  Going through their harness (codex, claude) is subscription (app use) which is heavily? subsidized. Anyone using the enterprise plan are charged the API pricing, however the article is not clear if Databricks is using enterprise plan or not which is why added the following disclaimer > Unless Databricks has some agreement in place
  - therealdrag0 2mo ago
    They certainly have an enterprise plan?
  - Anon1096 2mo ago
    Databricks is most certainly getting charged API pricing no matter what harness they are using. OpenAI and Anthropic models are so sought after right now that they set the terms even at the world's biggest companies, there is not a chance to get a special agreement for subscription pricing.
  - ChoosesBarbecue 2mo ago
    You can use both of those harnesses without going through subscription. That is a native feature in both Codex & Claude Code, even for non-enterprise customers.
pinkgolem 2mo ago
Open ai is allowing subscription use, anthropic also paused the effort to stop subscription use.
- copperx 2mo ago
  Bans are not in effect?
- InsideOutSanta 2mo ago
  They did? Is there a source where I can learn more? I'd love to use my Anthropic subscription with opencode.
  - pinkgolem 2mo ago
    Only if opencode uses the agent sdk/Claude -p June 15 changes would be the keyword to check, but at least in anthropics case it's... Complicated
oh_no 2mo ago
buddy, they're on enterprise plans paying per token

justincormack 2mo ago

Databricks will be using the API anyway, thats all you get with an enterprise agreement.

ChoosesBarbecue 2mo ago

... where in the article did they say they were using subscriptions? I'm fairly certain enterprises can't access subscription pricing in any case, they're all API costs (Anthropic doesn't support more than 150 on subscription pricing [0][1]). [0]: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797531-what-is-the-enterprise-plan https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797531-what-is-the-e... [1]: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9266767-what-is-the-team-plan https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9266767-what-is-the-t...

sandeepkd 2mo ago
Going through their harness (codex, claude) is subscription (app use) which is heavily? subsidized. Anyone using the enterprise plan are charged the API pricing, however the article is not clear if Databricks is using enterprise plan or not which is why added the following disclaimer > Unless Databricks has some agreement in place
- therealdrag0 2mo ago
  They certainly have an enterprise plan?
- Anon1096 2mo ago
  Databricks is most certainly getting charged API pricing no matter what harness they are using. OpenAI and Anthropic models are so sought after right now that they set the terms even at the world's biggest companies, there is not a chance to get a special agreement for subscription pricing.
- ChoosesBarbecue 2mo ago
  You can use both of those harnesses without going through subscription. That is a native feature in both Codex & Claude Code, even for non-enterprise customers.

pinkgolem 2mo ago

Open ai is allowing subscription use, anthropic also paused the effort to stop subscription use.

copperx 2mo ago
Bans are not in effect?
InsideOutSanta 2mo ago
They did? Is there a source where I can learn more? I'd love to use my Anthropic subscription with opencode.
- pinkgolem 2mo ago
  Only if opencode uses the agent sdk/Claude -p June 15 changes would be the keyword to check, but at least in anthropics case it's... Complicated

oh_no 2mo ago

buddy, they're on enterprise plans paying per token