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I'd rather have them battle on the topic "Who builds a better Google Wave for LLM chats" to explore the space of how AI studios could be. "Getting Started with

by qwertox 2mo ago

I'd rather have them battle on the topic "Who builds a better Google Wave for LLM chats" to explore the space of how AI studios could be. "Getting Started with Google Wave": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKUAqNGVwX0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKUAqNGVwX0

misiti3780 2mo ago
i remember this failing, but this product looks pretty useful in 2026
- throwaway27448 2mo ago
  It looked pretty useful in 2009. Failing to push it was baffling then too.
  - QuantumNomad_ 2mo ago
    It was open sourced as Apache Wave when Google shut it down. Years later Apache moved it to read only because of low community activity. The archived git repo on GitHub remains available to clone and revive as a fork. https://github.com/apache/incubator-retired-wave https://github.com/apache/incubator-retired-wave
    - throwaway27448 2mo ago
      This doesn't explain the lack of marketing. Apache isn't exactly known for pushing tech. Google never tried to improve on gmail.
      - QuantumNomad_ 2mo ago
        Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was adding this info for context and for anyone who hopefully feels inspired to pick up Wave and make something from it given that it was all open sourced and all. And I figured that in the chain after your comment about it having been useful looking all along was a natural place to add this additional info and link.
      - arthurbrown 2mo ago
        Google Inbox was amazing and I still mourn it regularly. The features they backported into gmail do not capture its essence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
        throwaway27448 2mo ago
        Oh, true. But that was fundamentally still email.
  - khazhoux 2mo ago
    This was the first big secret “you’re not allowed to know what this is or talk to anyone about it” project inside Google. They wanted to be left alone and especially to not have to integrate with the mail team. And everyone heard rumors of gigantic bonuses if they hit whatever milestones, which wasn’t a thing for other projects. All this made them isolated within the company, and when the project was an obvious flop, you didn’t see anyone rushing over to help them.
- tikhonj 2mo ago
  notion isn't too far off wave failed for weird google organizational reasons far more than anything inherent to the product or tech
- patwolf 2mo ago
  I used it to plan a group beach trip back when it came out. We had a single page shared with everyone going on the trip. The page had live shopping lists, maps, weather forecasts, and other snippets of useful information. Now in 2026 I still can't think of any single technology that provides the same utility. Although to be fair, this might be a case of rosy retrospection.
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  - tomjakubowski 2mo ago
    Notion pages are pretty good for shared trip planning docs. Although maybe without so many live updating widgets.
- dgellow 2mo ago
  It was awesome when released. I used it a lot, the multiplayer experience was awesome, and the mix of document-forum-wiki is still something I miss
- xnx 2mo ago
  It was too far ahead of its time.
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baxtr 2mo ago
It’s a fun idea to re-animate dead google products by feeding product videos to an AI
- DonHopkins 2mo ago
  Remember when Robert Scoble posted a photo of himself naked in the shower wearing only Google Wave? Oh never mind, that was Google Glass, another dead google product. That he personally killed with that photo. So confusing to keep track of them all.
DonHopkins 2mo ago
Also see Game Helpin' Squad's "A Pissed Off Tutorial For Google Wave": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug Their "World Quester 2" tutorial shines as the holy grail of consistent and ergonomic user interface and game design. The menuing system is so magnificently structured and well organized, it bring tears to my eyes. Google Wave pales in comparison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gy9hJauXns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gy9hJauXns

by qwertox 2mo ago

misiti3780 2mo ago

i remember this failing, but this product looks pretty useful in 2026

throwaway27448 2mo ago
It looked pretty useful in 2009. Failing to push it was baffling then too.
- QuantumNomad_ 2mo ago
  It was open sourced as Apache Wave when Google shut it down. Years later Apache moved it to read only because of low community activity. The archived git repo on GitHub remains available to clone and revive as a fork. https://github.com/apache/incubator-retired-wave https://github.com/apache/incubator-retired-wave
  - throwaway27448 2mo ago
    This doesn't explain the lack of marketing. Apache isn't exactly known for pushing tech. Google never tried to improve on gmail.
    - QuantumNomad_ 2mo ago
      Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was adding this info for context and for anyone who hopefully feels inspired to pick up Wave and make something from it given that it was all open sourced and all. And I figured that in the chain after your comment about it having been useful looking all along was a natural place to add this additional info and link.
    - arthurbrown 2mo ago
      Google Inbox was amazing and I still mourn it regularly. The features they backported into gmail do not capture its essence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail
      - throwaway27448 2mo ago
        Oh, true. But that was fundamentally still email.
- khazhoux 2mo ago
  This was the first big secret “you’re not allowed to know what this is or talk to anyone about it” project inside Google. They wanted to be left alone and especially to not have to integrate with the mail team. And everyone heard rumors of gigantic bonuses if they hit whatever milestones, which wasn’t a thing for other projects. All this made them isolated within the company, and when the project was an obvious flop, you didn’t see anyone rushing over to help them.
tikhonj 2mo ago
notion isn't too far off wave failed for weird google organizational reasons far more than anything inherent to the product or tech
patwolf 2mo ago
I used it to plan a group beach trip back when it came out. We had a single page shared with everyone going on the trip. The page had live shopping lists, maps, weather forecasts, and other snippets of useful information. Now in 2026 I still can't think of any single technology that provides the same utility. Although to be fair, this might be a case of rosy retrospection.
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- tomjakubowski 2mo ago
  Notion pages are pretty good for shared trip planning docs. Although maybe without so many live updating widgets.
dgellow 2mo ago
It was awesome when released. I used it a lot, the multiplayer experience was awesome, and the mix of document-forum-wiki is still something I miss
xnx 2mo ago
It was too far ahead of its time.

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baxtr 2mo ago

It’s a fun idea to re-animate dead google products by feeding product videos to an AI

DonHopkins 2mo ago
Remember when Robert Scoble posted a photo of himself naked in the shower wearing only Google Wave? Oh never mind, that was Google Glass, another dead google product. That he personally killed with that photo. So confusing to keep track of them all.

DonHopkins 2mo ago

Also see Game Helpin' Squad's "A Pissed Off Tutorial For Google Wave": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4RKRLaSug Their "World Quester 2" tutorial shines as the holy grail of consistent and ergonomic user interface and game design. The menuing system is so magnificently structured and well organized, it bring tears to my eyes. Google Wave pales in comparison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gy9hJauXns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gy9hJauXns