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Huh that is an interesting metaphor. A next higher layer printing press?
by MichaelZuo 2mo ago
Huh that is an interesting metaphor. A next higher layer printing press?
- mwigdahl 2mo agoI don't buy it, although I agree with GP's larger point about other strengths. Printing presses are about exact duplication of writing. The internet is a higher layer printing press. LLMs substitute for (some of) the human effort of producing the text that a printing press or the internet can then replicate.
- mathisfun123 2mo ago> Printing presses are about exact duplication of writing. maybe LLMs are seen to write as well as humans because most humans have poor reading comprehension skills? to wit: OP is using an analogy to make their point, where the components don't need to be an exact fit to make the point (ever heard the phrase "the map is not the territory"?)
- estimator7292 2mo agoAllow me to offer a minor reframing: printing presses aren't about duplicating writing. The printing press exists to mass produce text regardless of how or where the content of the text was produced. LLMs likewise are text production machines. They don't produce writing, they produce text. Text without writing is what we call slop in the modern parlance. LLMs are literally throwing random dice into a printing press and making a thousand copies that you then try to huck on the street as if it were a real newspaper.
- inigyou 2mo agoYou are shadowbanned and have been writing mostly into the void for the last three months. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48067472 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48067472
- DarkUranium 2mo agoI'm confused, how can I see it, for example?
- shmeeed 2mo agoStrangely, I'm still seeing the comment. How does that work?
- inigyou 2mo agoA user with enough reputation and who has enabled the option to view censored comments can vouch for a censored comment, restoring it.
- rootusrootus 2mo agoI wonder how that algorithm works. At the risk of discussing a bit of a taboo topic (are there rules against this? there might be...), I've never vouched for a comment and had it come alive. I have many times been the final nail in a comment where my flag caused it to die, but I have never seen the opposite with vouch.
- losvedir 2mo agoInteresting. Every time I've ever vouched a comment, it came alive. (Though the last one I vouched ended up dead again after enough people flagged it, oops. I hope that doesn't mean I lost my power. In my defense, it was flagged to death based on being AI [apparently], which I didn't pick up the signal on, nothing super terrible / controversial.)
- inigyou 2mo agoYou are probably shadowbanned from flagging and vouching, which is separate from a commenting and posting shadowban. A shadowbanned comment only requires one vouch to come alive. A comment that is dead because of excessive flags or moderator action may require more.
- marcosdumay 2mo ago
- palmotea 2mo ago> Huh that is an interesting metaphor. A next higher layer printing press? A printing press that does the thinking for you.
- dev0p 2mo agoA thinking press?
- palmotea 2mo ago> A thinking press? Soon you won't be doing anything. At best you'll just be a bag of meat attached to automated processes you don't understand in order to take legal liability for it. Literally a scapegoat, except of a different species.
- nntwozz 2mo agoWALL-E captured this sentiment.
- skinfaxi 2mo agoThat would be an interesting legal case. I would expect it to lead to negligence on the part of the employer for lack of training, etc rather than attach to the employee pressing the button.
- TeMPOraL 2mo agoYou get paid for having liability attach to you. Soon it may be the only thing you could be paid for.