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> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fi
by jghn 2mo ago
> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading
For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fixed any time soon
- illithid0 2mo agoAlso a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-macos-27 https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...
- lapcat 2mo ago> this is better than nothing. Having installed the beta, I think that's the best you can say about it.
- illithid0 2mo agoAs long as the UI improves and I can ignore all the AI stuff they're starting to push through, that's fine with me, though like many longtime macOS users, I'm not holding my breath for a bug-free experience.
- dylan604 2mo ago> though like many longtime macOS users For those of us older than just 10 years of using macOS, the older Apple OSes have instilled within us the desire to never install the X.0 release and wait until at least the X.1 release. The bug-free experience is a myth
- D-Coder 2mo ago> wait until at least the X.1 release I think that applies to almost all software, not just Apple OSes. After all, Confucius said: "The only thing worse than old software is new software."
- ChrisMarshallNY 2mo ago> AI stuff they're starting to push through iOS 26 anecdote: A couple of weeks ago, I had a Baltimore Oriole (a cool-looking bird, not a baseball player) in my yard. They aren't rare, per se, but they are uncommon. Took my iPhone out to snap a picture, and pressed the camera button. I hadn't used it, since upgrading to 26. It takes the picture. It's there. I can see it, but it won't let me save it. Instead, it wants to tell me about the cool new voice-activated AI retouch feature. There was no way to save. I probably could have figured it out, but I was so furious, I just nuked the picture.
- pseudosaid 2mo agofor real? it did, like every subsequent photo taken on the device after pressing the shutter “button”. You must be a bot, just another living shill. another confident user error in the field
- ChrisMarshallNY 2mo agoIt was a first-time onboarding thing. After that first time, it didn’t happen again. Fairly typical kind of workflow, that most apps do, these days. It’s just that the timing couldn’t have been worse. > You must be a bot, just another living shill. another confident user error in the field I have no idea what that means.
- DHPersonal 2mo agoHolding down the camera button does open the AI search for me instead of the Camera app. This can be disabled, if I remember correctly.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2mo agoIt was a one-time thing. I have that button set for the app. I have the long-press set for manual tweaking. I assume that this was trying to get me to use AI, instead.
- Jolter 2mo agoI hear it’s slower? Can you comment on that?
- etempleton 2mo agoAlso on the beta. Agreed. Definite visual and UX improvement over 26, fixing the most egregious issues with 26 implementation of Liquid Glass, but maybe not quite as good as 25 overall.
- lapcat 2mo ago> not quite as good as 25 overall Nothing will ever be as good as 25. Because macOS 25 does not exist. ;-)
- etempleton 2mo agoAhhh, my mistake. macOS 15 not to be confused with macOS 10.15
- trollbridge 2mo agoYou can almost turn it off on the 27 beta, and 27 seems to perform a lot better too.
- flohofwoe 2mo agoYou can already turn off most glass effects in 26 via "System Settings => Accessibility => Display => Reduce Transparency". I had that turned off years ago (for reasons I don't remember), and was wondering what all the fuzz was about when 26 came out because I didn't see much of a difference ;) IMHO the actual important visual changes in the 27 beta is that rolls back the bizarre oversized corner radius in Finder windows, and they also got rid of the 'every menu item must have an icon' idea.
- trollbridge 2mo ago27 seems superior to 26 in almost every way, although I'm still on a fairly old beta.
- SanjayMehta 2mo agoIt's the first thing I turn off on a new iPhone or iPad. Started around ten years ago in the release which had animated app icons. Induced nausea.
- trollbridge 2mo agoYep. That’s why it’s in accessibility - some people can’t handle it. Other useful options are reduce motion, reduce transparency…
- Melatonic 2mo agoI think that is just iOS no? Or does that work on MacOS too
- flohofwoe 2mo agoIt works on macOS too, I don't own any iOS devices.
- hbn 2mo agoI've been running the 27 beta and it fixes so much of the ugliness I hated in Tahoe. Lots of places had toolbars restored, solid areas that indicate where the window can be grabbed. The shitty icon spam in menus is back to sanity. And window corner radii are consistent and less bulbous.
- noname120 2mo agomacOS 17 is decisively faster on my MacBook Air M1 16 GB than macOS 26/27 is on my MacBook Pro M2 Max 32 GB. And I don’t mean just the animations themselves but lag/sluggishness/responsiveness in general.
- classified 2mo agoThere is no macOS 17.
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- noname120 2mo agoGosh I thought I had edited it to macOS 15, now it’s too late
- iknowstuff 2mo agoSlower than 15 though
- Hamuko 2mo agoSame. It's not the worst thing in the world, at least with Reduce Transparency enabled in the Accessibility settings, but I still don't feel any inclination to upgrade. My personal Mac Studio is macOS 15 and my work MacBook is on macOS 26, and I don't think there's a single thing that I find to be better on the work laptop than on my personal machine. I might update to macOS 26 in September to be ready to update to macOS 27. Being two versions behind doesn't seem reasonable and I'd rather be on the "Tahoe but less shitty" version than Tahoe itself.
- frizlab 2mo agomacOS 27 does polish Liquid Glass and makes it look passable on macOS IMHO. It was very bad on 26. Comically bad.
- reddalo 2mo agoThat's the sad thing: Apple decided to leave all Intel macs on broken macOS 26. Very bad on Apple's part.
- drnick1 2mo agoFortunately, those can run Linux. I recently installed Arch on an Intel T2. The only issue is that it does not have a TPM module, so the LUKS password needs to be manually entered at boot.
- normie3000 2mo agoWhat's the alternative to typing in a LUKS password?
- cyberax 2mo agoYou can use TPM with secure boot to store the password. TPM checks that the firmware is the same and that the OS is signed by trusted (by _you_) keys, and if everything matches it makes the key available for reading by the OS.
- normie3000 2mo agoSo what stops other people turning on your computer?
- coatmatter 2mo agoI believe this is the definitive resource on the state of Linux on Intel MacBook Pros: https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux I recently made the move away from an out-of-support macOS 12 Monterey to Debian Stable (13 trixie), after some failed attempts to upgrade macOS using OpenCore Legacy Patcher. While Linux support will always remain far from perfect with that series of MBP, it was still much better than I expected compared to my last look many years ago. I happen to get better use out of my particular setup now compared to macOS; as it's basically a glorified streaming device that I interact with through wayvnc/vncviewer out of arm's reach across a table. This also allows me to mostly avoid using the semi-busted Butterfly keyboard. In addition to having something with security updates again, I'll now never need to think about Apple dropping Intel support. I'd also like to note that nix-darwin support on Intel macOS is ending very soon too - but not Linux + nix as a package manager (nixpkgs) since that combination is separate to macOS + nix-darwin.
- IdiotSavage 2mo agoI hate the round corners. It's already too much on 15, but way worse on 26. It looks like "Baby's first OS", designed by Fisher-Price.
- hbn 2mo agoThey reverted this in 27 https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/macos-golden-gate-liquid-glass/#:~:text=Toolbars%20and%20Window%20Shapes https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/macos-golden-gate-liqui...
- ak217 2mo agoLove to see this, now if only they could revert the whole shimmering oil slick disaster that is "glass" on iOS (unlike macOS, even if I "reduce transparency", the oil slick effect still appears in many places, in addition to all the spacing issues).
- simlevesque 2mo agoYou can disable it in the accessibility preferences.
- pmdr 2mo agoI bought a MBP mainly for the hardware, otherwise I'd have stuck with Linux. OS-wise, the jump from Monterey (which I'd last used) to Sequoia was smooth and still feels that way. I prefer not to notice the OS at all, something that I feel would be hard to do on Tahoe due to all that liquid glass and dumb transparency and animations. Seriously, who the heck even asked for those?
- shepherdjerred 2mo ago27 is a lot better. You can make the UI opaque again (they provide a transparency slider)
- coldpie 2mo agoI found if you turn off transparency effects and turn on high contrast in the accessibility settings, it's actually a pretty nice looking UI. Still has some dumb quirks like inconsistent corner radiuses and text appearing under UI elements (because they're assumed to be transparent, but aren't). But all software is trash in 2026 so be thankful it isn't even worse, I guess.
- Melatonic 2mo agoBeen doing that for years now already (performance boost). You can also do high contrast mode per app (if were talking about iOS). Must have for iMessage I think personally as it makes hard to read Green Bubbles a nice dark green that is very pleasant.