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Everyone needs to remember those who were deniers and followers of them Never let them live this down

jauntywundrkind 2mo ago
I think part of why the right keeps getting more brazen, more anti-reality, anti-science, anti-education, anti-school, anti-democracy is that so many of their numbers are coming due. Disinformation isn't working, as the problems mount, so animosity/overdrama/anger and anti-information are the routes left to them now, as Titanic walls of flame engulf the world in their wake. Bush II dismantled NASA's mission statement to monitor the world, for example. This is not a new foe, and I have not forgotten. https://www.ucs.org/resources/nasa-earth-removed-mission-statement https://www.ucs.org/resources/nasa-earth-removed-mission-sta...
- appreciatorBus 2mo ago
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  - wat10000 2mo ago
    What science is that going against?
edhelas 2mo ago
https://rehost.diberie.com/Picture/Get/f/532005 https://rehost.diberie.com/Picture/Get/f/532005 Picture from the french "moderate" right journal Le Figaro, mai 2026. "investigation into environmental alarmists"
- ColdStream 2mo ago
  Well that aged like milk in a forest fire.
dgellow 2mo ago
The president of the United States, and pretty much all his cult-members/followers
jubilee33 2mo ago
Yes because it was the old people watching Fox news who did this...those led astray; but not corporations polluting and their employees "just doing their job", not politicians enabling them and taking payoffs, not the people who own the propaganda outlets? I mean ultimately it is everyone who ever bought an electronic product or drove an automobile or ate a burger right?... At some level. But it just seems like this level of anger should be directed at the actually decision makers and their lackeys... or are u claiming that there is some sort of functioning democracy that holds power accountable, because most of the electorate like wars and bombing and usury and these things too? If you must be angry, and not saying you shouldn't be, please focus it on the correct source and not other powerless people, misinformed as they may be.
- jrajav 2mo ago
  Let's roll with the futilist attitude for a second; what is it you suggest that we actually do, once we're focusing the anger on the correct source?
  - yread 2mo ago
    Work close to your home, dont travel long distances, dont buy stuff you dont really need, eat less red meat
    - henearkr 2mo ago
      But you also need to explain others why they should do that too (only one person doing all of that will not make a difference). This is where "people watching Fox News" are guilty here, they got the wrong information and thus are really not able to decide to "eat less meat" or "avoid ICE vehicles". So Fox News is a real culprit. But let's not forget that many different news channels exist, with an infinitely better coverage of AGW. So I actually think it is perfectly OK to blame people for watching Fox News.
    - nradov 2mo ago
      Trying to shame people into scaling back their lifestyles isn't going to work. We need to approach the problem with a growth and abundance mindset to innovate our way to solutions. Regardless of the larger impacts or moral issues most people aren't going to be willing to sit in dark cramped high-rise apartments eating tofu. At least not if they have other options.
SiempreViernes 2mo ago
Yeah, lets not forget Bush sr switching from advocating action against climate change to enforcing inaction on the political pretence of protecting jobs. https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/globalwarming2ed/chpt/bush-administration-george-h-w https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/globalwarming2ed/chpt/bush...
- rich_sasha 2mo ago
  I sometimes wonder what the world would look like if all the cash burned in Afghanistan and Iraq was instead used to combat global warming. As a plus, it would have likely left the US in a better place than having fought these wars!

I think part of why the right keeps getting more brazen, more anti-reality, anti-science, anti-education, anti-school, anti-democracy is that so many of their numbers are coming due. Disinformation isn't working, as the problems mount, so animosity/overdrama/anger and anti-information are the routes left to them now, as Titanic walls of flame engulf the world in their wake. Bush II dismantled NASA's mission statement to monitor the world, for example. This is not a new foe, and I have not forgotten. https://www.ucs.org/resources/nasa-earth-removed-mission-statement https://www.ucs.org/resources/nasa-earth-removed-mission-sta...

appreciatorBus 2mo ago
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- wat10000 2mo ago
  What science is that going against?

edhelas 2mo ago

https://rehost.diberie.com/Picture/Get/f/532005 https://rehost.diberie.com/Picture/Get/f/532005 Picture from the french "moderate" right journal Le Figaro, mai 2026. "investigation into environmental alarmists"

ColdStream 2mo ago
Well that aged like milk in a forest fire.

dgellow 2mo ago

The president of the United States, and pretty much all his cult-members/followers

jubilee33 2mo ago

Yes because it was the old people watching Fox news who did this...those led astray; but not corporations polluting and their employees "just doing their job", not politicians enabling them and taking payoffs, not the people who own the propaganda outlets? I mean ultimately it is everyone who ever bought an electronic product or drove an automobile or ate a burger right?... At some level. But it just seems like this level of anger should be directed at the actually decision makers and their lackeys... or are u claiming that there is some sort of functioning democracy that holds power accountable, because most of the electorate like wars and bombing and usury and these things too? If you must be angry, and not saying you shouldn't be, please focus it on the correct source and not other powerless people, misinformed as they may be.

jrajav 2mo ago
Let's roll with the futilist attitude for a second; what is it you suggest that we actually do, once we're focusing the anger on the correct source?
- yread 2mo ago
  Work close to your home, dont travel long distances, dont buy stuff you dont really need, eat less red meat
  - henearkr 2mo ago
    But you also need to explain others why they should do that too (only one person doing all of that will not make a difference). This is where "people watching Fox News" are guilty here, they got the wrong information and thus are really not able to decide to "eat less meat" or "avoid ICE vehicles". So Fox News is a real culprit. But let's not forget that many different news channels exist, with an infinitely better coverage of AGW. So I actually think it is perfectly OK to blame people for watching Fox News.
  - nradov 2mo ago
    Trying to shame people into scaling back their lifestyles isn't going to work. We need to approach the problem with a growth and abundance mindset to innovate our way to solutions. Regardless of the larger impacts or moral issues most people aren't going to be willing to sit in dark cramped high-rise apartments eating tofu. At least not if they have other options.

SiempreViernes 2mo ago

Yeah, lets not forget Bush sr switching from advocating action against climate change to enforcing inaction on the political pretence of protecting jobs. https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/globalwarming2ed/chpt/bush-administration-george-h-w https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/globalwarming2ed/chpt/bush...

rich_sasha 2mo ago
I sometimes wonder what the world would look like if all the cash burned in Afghanistan and Iraq was instead used to combat global warming. As a plus, it would have likely left the US in a better place than having fought these wars!