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I’ve seen so many variations of this where a community starts adding more rules that are open to judgment. Removing the obvious rule breakers looks like an eas
by Aurornis 3mo ago
I’ve seen so many variations of this where a community starts adding more rules that are open to judgment.
Removing the obvious rule breakers looks like an easy win at first. Then over time the list of rules grows. Small groups become good at navigating the rule making process and getting changes pushed through. Before you know it, small groups of highly invested people are wielding the rules and the rule making process against their enemies or competitors. The community was long since cleared out from anyone who got sick of the drama, leaving a weird internal battle where different in groups are fighting with each other over little things and turning the rules against each other.
Maybe Codeberg will be different. Maybe the rule making stops here and it’s reasonably enforced against only the really bad examples, with leeway granted to others generously. Maybe it doesn’t turn into a slippery slope of little dramas that exhaust everyone who isn’t invested in the constant background drama of their code hosting site. I hope it does for their sake.
But I also think enough people like me have seen what happens to communities that go down the path of generating a lot of rules like these and will choose to steer clear of this site. It always feels like a good idea when you and all your friends are on the right side of the rules, but it’s less fun when you find yourself making choices or tip toeing around to avoid triggering the Nth round of rules that were introduced 10 steps past where you thought the rules were in a good and balanced place.
- kps 3mo ago>Before you know it, small groups of highly invested people are wielding the rules and the rule making process against their enemies or competitors. Now that you mention it, Wikipedia also has a policy against LLM contributions.
- zamadatix 3mo agoImportantly, Wikipedia's policy is a bit more detailed about what LLM contributions are and aren't allowed. There is always ambiguity, but going through specific cases and examples up front in the policy went a long way.
- Pay08 3mo agoNot to mention what happens when these rules cease to be rules on purely technical matters. What if they make a rule against the site allowing hosting the code *of* AI agents for example?
- bigbuppo 3mo agoThen you have your agent create you your own codeberg, with blackjack, and hookers.
- Pay08 3mo agoCan the LLM also materialise a server and free electricity for me?
- bigbuppo 3mo agoNo, but it can pretend to do that, which is close enough.
- eqvinox 3mo agoYou're paying for the LLM already, which is running on a server and consumes electricity.
- nullsanity 3mo agoWhy would you need a server? a pi would do.
- inigyou 3mo agoA Pi running a server is also a server
- squigz 3mo agoSo you want free hosting and free services and you also want to dictate how you are able to use them?
- cwillu 3mo ago
- ares623 3mo agoHow do you propose the people who want a shared space where they can know that there is no slop/crypto crap approach it?
- zamadatix 3mo agoPerhaps something akin to a tag? E.g. if memory safe purists were popular on codeberg I'd hope there was just a way to filter projects by that feature (or at least by language) rather than the C projects get kicked out and we end up with 50 platforms for the 50 communities of coding opinions.