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It's incredible how negative and dismissive the comments in here are while here I am thinking the model actually looks impressively capable. But then again I h
by jdthedisciple 3mo ago
It's incredible how negative and dismissive the comments in here are while here I am thinking the model actually looks impressively capable.
But then again I heard the downers have always been the first to leave their dung comments here so let's see...
- ra 3mo agoIt would be interesting to see some time-series sentiment analysis of HN. Subjectively it feels like there's much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong.
- roenxi 3mo agoBunch of software engineers are worried about their future employment prospects.
- CamperBob2 3mo ago[flagged]
- indymike 3mo agoIt's not that as much as the usual something new, complain about rapid change.
- rclkrtrzckr 3mo agos/software engineers/filmmakers/
- deadbabe 3mo agofilmmakers have the most to gain here, now anyone with a good idea for a story can just prompt out their own full length movie or tv show.
- CamperBob2 3mo agoBefore AI: 90% of everything was crap After AI: 99% of everything is crap ... but there will be >10x more of it, so we'll ultimately end up with more good stuff.
- taneq 3mo agoBut since our capacity to experience stuff can't keep up with the sheer quantity of stuff, 99% of the stuff we see will be crap, even if there's technically a larger amount of good stuff in absolute terms.
- deadbabe 3mo agoBut not all AI stuff is crap. There will come a day where some piece of AI content brings a smile to your lips before a tear to your eye.
- ryanchants 3mo agoA lot of us spent substantial parts of our careers automating other folks out of jobs. But now that it's come for us, we're upset.
- deadbabe 3mo agoIMO it’s best to just stop worrying and embrace it as the end of days for the field. These are the last good ol’ days you will have before it’s all over. Worrying about it won’t change the future. Just try to focus on all the good AI does.
- mdp2021 3mo ago> time-series sentiment analysis [...] much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong Depending on the members, there certainly is. Put aside the "dismissers", those who have a habit or a hormonal reliance to cast a "meh". Those who objectively assess according to the input that the development of facts provide may bend their "apparent mood" accordingly. This may be more evident here because in brighter times we may be more inclined to post and submit about more idle intellectual beauty ("complications in ancient clocks"), and in darker times it makes sense that we are more focused on the problems.
- globular-toast 3mo agoPersonally I'm just bored of AI releases. I kinda dread it because it'll hog the front page of HN for a couple of days and it's just the same comments every time: people showing what it generated, people signalling that they aren't luddites etc. For me this is like announcing a slightly more efficient form of coal-powered steam engine. Great, but it's still running on coal. I'm excited about moving beyond coal to cleaner and more sustainable energy sources. Current "AI", based on machine learning, is just recycling existing human works: books, films, code, forum posts etc. But those works, like the coal, is going to run out. We've decided to stop making new things and just burn the coal that's already been deposited.
- grosswait 3mo agoAdd in time zone of the commenter and potentially some really interesting data emerges.
- azinman2 3mo agoSuch as?
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- speff 3mo agoYou may like this old comment by dang who did this type of analysis: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24215601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24215601 (2020)
- muppetman 3mo agoAdvertisers love these sorts of reactions. I see nothing here but them TELLING us how great it is. Not showing us.
- jdthedisciple 3mo ago> Not showing us Have you watched the 46s video full screen on a monitor and not marvelled at the incredible 4K detail of the FPV motorcycle racing clip?
- drsalt 3mo agonone of this is exciting compared to holodeck in star trek
- NitpickLawyer 3mo ago> in star trek Heh. On the other hand, we are seeing so much negativity around "AI", while we have access to something as close as possible to the "universal communicator" from trek. There are now several CotS things you can buy that basically serve this purpose. You can walk into a mall, buy one, and travel to the most remote place on Earth, speak in your own language, and almost anyone else can speak in their own language, and through technomagic the two of you can communicate. And yet there's so much pessimism...
- TeMPOraL 3mo agoYup. People still don't believe when I say that we've cracked universal translation with LLMs. That's despite the proof being in their hands; anyone with any SOTA multimodal LLM app (read: Claude, ChatGPT, or Gemini) with "advanced voice" / "live mode" can test it on the spot: just launch it and tell it will hear multiple languages and its task is to translate what it hears in one language to the other, and vice versa.
- vouaobrasil 3mo agoIt's possible it's because some people care about the consequences of what we're doing as a society beyond the mindless satiation of curiosity. Nothing wrong with curiosity in my books by the way, but I do think isolating it the way we've done in the technical fields is a dangerous and irresponsible attitude.
- user43928 3mo agoAs I understand it HN is a community for hackers to discuss interesting and curious topics. Pessimistic opinions on the labor market, views about society and politics that border on the dystopian, as well as exaggerated concerns about datacenter environmental impacts, all seem like a poor fit for this website.
- mdp2021 3mo agoYou must expand the view to: members here form a community of people with aggregage special skills (which the "intellectual curiosity" part itself suggests) and are operators in a real world, which we assess and discuss. There are urgent matters, important matters, and nice matters - all relevant to us.
- walrus01 3mo agoIt would be a very uninformed world view and naive to say that the people who build and implement cutting-edge technology shouldn't be thinking about its societal implications and dangers. Or even considering more basic things like making sure it doesn't hurt anyone. Just because you can do a thing doesn't mean you always should do a thing. Anyone ever taken a CS course that includes extensive discussion of the Therac-25?
- walrus01 3mo agoI'm a person who is making extensive use of current-gen "smart" LLM for coding tasks and building automation tools, doing some of the drudge work of gluing disparate open source things together into new projects. I'm fairly optimistic about that. Particularly when you have a good harness setup and you know enough about the subject matter to understand when a model has gone into some dead-end of reasoning or has built something that's not quite right. At the same time, I can see social media is being flooded with absolutely horrid AI slop images and video. I'm much more pessimistic about the practical beneficial real world use of totally artificial image and video generators. It seems the uses that these things are put to when they get into the hands of millions of people are detrimental to society and not a benefit.
- icantevenhold 3mo agoOnly the enlightened tech elite should have access to such sophisticated technology - we can’t expect the uneducated masses to not misuse them /s
- TeMPOraL 3mo agoYeah, really, masses are fine. I mean gross and boring mostly, but fine. Problem is when entrepreneurs get their hands on such tech, because they invariably put it to use for scamming and cheating people (read: marketing). It's the business people who are flooding social media with AI slop, for example.
- icantevenhold 3mo agoYea but that’s a fad - people are already fed up with the obvious slop. I don’t think it’s something we will see a lot in ~1-2 years. Marketers will continue to hop on the next big trend just like they always did and all the current slop will become a different flavour slop.
- impossiblefork 3mo agoIt's probably actually good, but after this stuff with Qwen-Image-3 and it's ability to things like render images that look like they were rendered with LaTeX or compose many things side by side or in depth, maybe it's perhaps not totally in the right direction to only focus on visual stuff.
- jarjoura 3mo agoGiven that Martin Scorsese is now an "advisor", I suspect BFL will continue to position itself as the research lab for filmmakers. This video model, if comparable to Seedance 2.0 won't really make sense as a slop generator, as it's too expensive for that, but it would be part of a projects VFX pipeline.