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Unsure if it's just the way they prompted it / coded it, but the output is far too much a literal direct copy of the lyrics. The best music videos have a story
by maerF0x0 3mo ago
Unsure if it's just the way they prompted it / coded it, but the output is far too much a literal direct copy of the lyrics. The best music videos have a story arc on the theme of but often not litearlly the lyrics, and start with obscurity and reveal something (following all the literary/story mechanisms)
Consider Amber Run - Found lyrics versus the video, and the story arc of the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6V_a1-EUA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6V_a1-EUA
- anonova 3mo agoLiteral music videos are still fun and a valid creative direction, e.g., Vance Joy's "Riptide": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ_1HMAGb4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ_1HMAGb4k
- Forgeties79 3mo agoThat’s not really the same thing.
- Waterluvian 3mo agoThe thing about art is that literally everything is a "valid creative direction." But that doesnt make everything immune from derision.
- NuclearPM 3mo agoI don’t understand what your point is.
- RIMR 3mo agoThe point is that, at least presently, an algorithm lacks the creativity to meaningfully stimulate an intellectual person, and whatever excuse you give for the decisions that algorithm makes, you should never expect a human being to be more impressed with the algorithm than they are with their human peers.
- little-victory 3mo ago[dead]
- therein 3mo agoCoincidence that both songs reference Michelle Pfeiffer or was that free connotation at work?
- titanomachy 3mo agoFree association?
- therein 3mo agoYeah.
- m463 3mo ago... This hit, that ice cold Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold This one for them hood girls ... - https://genius.com/Mark-ronson-uptown-funk-lyrics https://genius.com/Mark-ronson-uptown-funk-lyrics
- therein 3mo ago... I just wanna, I just wanna know If you're gonna, if you're gonna stay I just gotta, I just gotta know I can't have it, I can't have it any other way I swear she's destined for the screen Closest thing to Michelle Pfeiffer that you've ever seen, oh ... - https://genius.com/Vance-joy-riptide-lyrics https://genius.com/Vance-joy-riptide-lyrics
- therein 3mo agoProbably nobody will see this as I replied much later but apparently Michelle Pfeiffer and other middle aged singers are a codename for cocaine. So "white gold" makes a lot of sense now.
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- bee_rider 3mo agoThat’s neat. It especially works because the words are a little bit nonsensical, so interpreting them literally becomes unexpected.
- wzdd 3mo agoCome on, that video is on another level. "All my friends are turning green" (shot of $1 bills), "she's been living on the highest shelf" (woman standing on Juliet balcony), "they come unstuck" (someone pulling twin pole popsicle apart) For contrast these have "ice cold" (shot of ice cubes), "got chucks on" (shot of shoes), "livin' it up in the city" (shot of city).
- dolebirchwood 3mo agoThose shots all matched the banality of Uptown Funk's lyrics.
- threetonesun 3mo agoThe retired dragon(s) were honestly my favorite part simply because of how absurd they were.
- nomel 3mo agoOr, in the opposite direction, with literal lyrics to match the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMmXCyrV_WQ&list=RDXMmXCyrV_WQ&start_radio=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMmXCyrV_WQ&list=RDXMmXCyrV_...
- dataviz1000 3mo agoIn an interview, an adult actress was asked about the things she says during scenes. She said she describes what is happening literally at any moment. This is what LLM models do.
- BLKNSLVR 3mo agoThat was sort of like what The Mandalorian dialogue devolved into, with some explaining what's happening right now, and then some explaining what they're about to do. Once you notice this, it's impossible to not notice it.
- nsxwolf 3mo agoWeird Al videos are often totally literal and extremely fun as a result. https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw?is=tU_8p-hDZv9gjAJ6 https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw?is=tU_8p-hDZv9gjAJ6
- krapp 3mo agoWierd Al videos are a parody of an existing property. "White and Nerdy" is a parody of "Riding Dirty" by Chamillionaire, but the lyrics are about nerd stereotypes (as an intentional contrast with black culture as presented in the original,) and a great deal of creative effort is put into making those lyrics humorous while also fitting to the original theme. Nothing about Wierd Al's videos are "totally literal," certainly not in the sense of these AI videos, which are "literal" in the sense of "literally showing what the lyrics are describing."
- IanCal 3mo agoLots of the shots in white and nerdy are literally showing what the lyrics are describing, is there another level to them with references I’ve missed?
- automatic6131 3mo agoThat's because White and Nerdy isn't a standalone song (if it was, it would be rubbish). It only has value as referential humour and self deprecating parody. So by being literal, it's using juxtaposition to emphasise the humour: It's funny when the nerd is pointing at the old JS logo and star trek's klingon icon because one would typically expect there to be something related to black culture, as in the start of the music video. If it wasn't a parody of an existing song, and the popular genre, it would be complete garbage. Nothing about the song would work.
- IanCal 3mo agoI think you're mixing up the lyrics and the video. > It's funny when the nerd is pointing at the old JS logo and star trek's klingon icon The lyrics are funny. The video is almost entirely converting each near standalone statement into a very direct scene. "I'm fluent in javascript as well as klingon" is the funny line about his nerdiness, and the video is literally just him pointing to those logos. Key and Peele locking the car doors is one of the few things that happens that's in the video and not explicitly said in the lyrics.
- nalekberov 3mo agoFun fact (if you care): Back in the '90s, pretty much every music video produced in Azerbaijan literally matched the lyrics.
- hn_throwaway_99 3mo agoThe entire thing was cringeworthy to the core. I kind of enjoyed it though because it perfectly epitomized "AI slop" in the first 30 seconds so wonderfully. "Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold" - show a blonde woman in a gold sequined top! "Livin' it up in the city" - show a shot of a big city! If anything, the absurd literalism of the video contrasted so perfectly with the (IMO) brilliant clever originality of the lyrics. E.g. "Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold" is actually a not-so-subtle reference to cocaine. Imagine if the lyrics were as stupidly unoriginal as the video ("Now we're all snorting cocaine!!").
- postsantum 3mo ago> The best music videos have a story arc on the theme of but often not litearlly the lyrics If the music is crazy popular, you can still do it. See Land Down Under
- deadbabe 3mo agoSometimes you can fix this by swapping one tracks music video with another, and letting the syncopation happen naturally.
- rcpt 3mo agoGenghis Khan https://youtu.be/P_SlAzsXa7E https://youtu.be/P_SlAzsXa7E
- FailMore 3mo agoYes, LLMs are way to literal - it is a problem. Claude can right great code, but it’ll throw comments into the code about why we chose this approach instead of the random one I discussed with it - when the comment is of no use to a future developer. It points at some sort of theory of mind problem in LLMs imo.
- calgoo 3mo agoI think these videos are actually a good representation of vibe coding... If you let the agent do its own thing, it works... but once you start looking at the details (just like in the video) you can see where the issues are.