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amazon hides some prices because i'm viewing the page from canada, but it looks like that says the cable you linked is $15? that's what i've been paying for ca

amazon hides some prices because i'm viewing the page from canada, but it looks like that says the cable you linked is $15? that's what i've been paying for cables, and it seems reasonable to me.

qurren 3mo ago
It's a cable, it should cost $2 at most.
- notatoad 3mo ago
  okay, i mean, that's exactly what my original comment said: this is only a problem if you buy cheap cables.
  - pineapplepizza6 3mo ago
    If some of your devices require a $30 cable and you use the same cables for everything, then you use a $30 cable for your mouse.
    - vel0city 3mo ago
      If you're buying a cable for a specific device in a specific circumstance than by all means get the cable that meets that. Then it's not a problem about "what is its functional support", it doesn't matter, that's your mouse cable that you use for your mouse on that desk. That's the monitor cable you use to plug things into that monitor. That's the dock cable you use to plug things into the dock. For all the cables that are your flex carrying around places where you don't know how it'll be used tomorrow, get a good cable and you won't have any issues.
    - notatoad 3mo ago
      Yeah? I use a $15 cable for my mouse. And then when my mouse is done charging I put the cable back in the bag with my portable monitor, which the same cable also works for.
  - qurren 3mo ago
    It's also only a problem if they overcomplicate power delivery design such that you need expensive cables. They could have made it just DC +19V and GND over 14 gauge wire with a nice, outdoor-recreation-grade connector and called it a day.
    - Dylan16807 3mo ago
      USB power delivery doesn't need expensive cables. Basic 240W cables cost $3-4.
- LoganDark 3mo ago
  I have some Thunderbolt cables that are like $80 apiece because they're like 3 meters long. I have like five or six of them because each one only carries one video signal. (I used Thunderbolt so that touch and pen inputs could go over the one cable. These days though I just use a MacBook Pro, and hook up a capture card when I need to access the Windows)
- thenthenthen 3mo ago
  The apple usb c charging cable is like $30, it is well worth the money of you are into software defined radio I can report. Not sure what magic they pulled of, but all the tricks in the book it seems!
- Gigachad 3mo ago
  40gbps is an insane data rate that requires shielding, precision, and testing. There is no way you are getting that for $2. That said, outside of connecting a laptop to your monitor, you don't need a 40gbps cable.
  - qurren 3mo ago
    > 40gbps is an insane data rate that requires shielding, precision, and testing. There is no way you are getting that for $2. I dunno, Cat8 is 40gbps and pretty cheap. DOCSIS 4.0 does 10Gbps on some really ancient cables. I'm sure Cat9 will do even better, at least the cat people and the doc people are trying harder than the USB people. Unifi even has a PoE-over-coax solution. Add some Anker GaN shit and I'm sure it can be miniaturized. > outside of connecting a laptop to your monitor As soon as I need a "special" cable to connect a laptop to a monitor, we're effectively back to the 1990s-2000s when I needed a special monitor cable. There is no point to connector standardization if any cable can't do any function. The whole point of this thread was "one type of cable for everything" and "grab any USB-C cable from your personal stash and they all work for every use case".
    - Dylan16807 3mo ago
      > There is no point to connector standardization if any cable can't do any function. I completely disagree. When the only difference between cables is max speed, that's still a huge improvement over a nest of different cable types, half of which are custom. And it's easy to get into a position where all your USB-C cables differ only by max speed.
      - qurren 3mo ago
        Which is worse because they all look sort of the same, but they are not the same. It's even worse for non-techies, who don't understand what a gbps or a watt is, and who will leave a 1-star review, or worse, trash their cable, because their cable was "slow" but was meant for 240W PD but only supported USB 2.0. They purchased it initially because it had 5 stars. Ideally, there should only be "5 star" USB cables, and they should all work for all purposes that they can physically plug into. The situation in the early 2000s is I could spot the cable I needed from a mile away.

amazon hides some prices because i'm viewing the page from canada, but it looks like that says the cable you linked is $15? that's what i've been paying for cables, and it seems reasonable to me.

qurren 3mo ago

It's a cable, it should cost $2 at most.

notatoad 3mo ago
okay, i mean, that's exactly what my original comment said: this is only a problem if you buy cheap cables.
- pineapplepizza6 3mo ago
  If some of your devices require a $30 cable and you use the same cables for everything, then you use a $30 cable for your mouse.
  - vel0city 3mo ago
    If you're buying a cable for a specific device in a specific circumstance than by all means get the cable that meets that. Then it's not a problem about "what is its functional support", it doesn't matter, that's your mouse cable that you use for your mouse on that desk. That's the monitor cable you use to plug things into that monitor. That's the dock cable you use to plug things into the dock. For all the cables that are your flex carrying around places where you don't know how it'll be used tomorrow, get a good cable and you won't have any issues.
  - notatoad 3mo ago
    Yeah? I use a $15 cable for my mouse. And then when my mouse is done charging I put the cable back in the bag with my portable monitor, which the same cable also works for.
- qurren 3mo ago
  It's also only a problem if they overcomplicate power delivery design such that you need expensive cables. They could have made it just DC +19V and GND over 14 gauge wire with a nice, outdoor-recreation-grade connector and called it a day.
  - Dylan16807 3mo ago
    USB power delivery doesn't need expensive cables. Basic 240W cables cost $3-4.
LoganDark 3mo ago
I have some Thunderbolt cables that are like $80 apiece because they're like 3 meters long. I have like five or six of them because each one only carries one video signal. (I used Thunderbolt so that touch and pen inputs could go over the one cable. These days though I just use a MacBook Pro, and hook up a capture card when I need to access the Windows)
thenthenthen 3mo ago
The apple usb c charging cable is like $30, it is well worth the money of you are into software defined radio I can report. Not sure what magic they pulled of, but all the tricks in the book it seems!
Gigachad 3mo ago
40gbps is an insane data rate that requires shielding, precision, and testing. There is no way you are getting that for $2. That said, outside of connecting a laptop to your monitor, you don't need a 40gbps cable.
- qurren 3mo ago
  > 40gbps is an insane data rate that requires shielding, precision, and testing. There is no way you are getting that for $2. I dunno, Cat8 is 40gbps and pretty cheap. DOCSIS 4.0 does 10Gbps on some really ancient cables. I'm sure Cat9 will do even better, at least the cat people and the doc people are trying harder than the USB people. Unifi even has a PoE-over-coax solution. Add some Anker GaN shit and I'm sure it can be miniaturized. > outside of connecting a laptop to your monitor As soon as I need a "special" cable to connect a laptop to a monitor, we're effectively back to the 1990s-2000s when I needed a special monitor cable. There is no point to connector standardization if any cable can't do any function. The whole point of this thread was "one type of cable for everything" and "grab any USB-C cable from your personal stash and they all work for every use case".
  - Dylan16807 3mo ago
    > There is no point to connector standardization if any cable can't do any function. I completely disagree. When the only difference between cables is max speed, that's still a huge improvement over a nest of different cable types, half of which are custom. And it's easy to get into a position where all your USB-C cables differ only by max speed.
    - qurren 3mo ago
      Which is worse because they all look sort of the same, but they are not the same. It's even worse for non-techies, who don't understand what a gbps or a watt is, and who will leave a 1-star review, or worse, trash their cable, because their cable was "slow" but was meant for 240W PD but only supported USB 2.0. They purchased it initially because it had 5 stars. Ideally, there should only be "5 star" USB cables, and they should all work for all purposes that they can physically plug into. The situation in the early 2000s is I could spot the cable I needed from a mile away.