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It's non-toxic and food safe, and yet a significant number of people on the internet still act like it's poison that will give you Alzheimer's. I wonder how man
by badc0ffee 3mo ago
It's non-toxic and food safe, and yet a significant number of people on the internet still act like it's poison that will give you Alzheimer's. I wonder how many of those people touch their lips to the lid of an aluminum beverage can. Or how they might bake a lasagna at home.
- jagged-chisel 3mo ago1) all of them 2) glass dish
- badc0ffee 3mo agoI use a glass/Pyrex dish, but put foil on top. I guess you could use a fitted glass lid instead, depending on the container.
- ceejayoz 3mo agoI've only seen people concerned with it in antiperspirants, where it's a salt. (And to be clear, I think it's BS.) As with NaCl, it's at least possible that the salt and the pure-ish variant aren't quite the same thing.
- wyrdcurt 3mo agoProbably not complete BS. This is anecdotal, but years of experience has taught me that aluminum-containing antiperspirants cause contact dermatitis for me after extended use. I was also diagnosed with a nickel allergy by a dermatologist when I was a child. Metal allergies are real. I wouldn't go so far as to say aluminum is toxic for everyone, but it's certainly something I avoid putting on my skin.
- br0ceph 3mo agoi heard aluminum food containers are often coated with toxic liners, like plastics, bpa, and pfas. If Alzheimers isnt a risk with pure aluminum metal, id say those liners are a huge risk. Are kitchen foils coated? Im pretty sure cans are most of the time.
- badc0ffee 3mo ago"Plastic" in general isn't toxic as a liner. It's used in plumbing, and in zillions of containers for potable water and foods. When you get food from even a nice restaurant, they probably marinate meat in a plastic container, and squeeze fruit juice into a plastic container. They sous vide items in plastic. I've also never heard of a plastic/Alzheimer's connection, only one claimed with aluminum.
- br0ceph 3mo agoi didnt mean those contaminents cause Alzheimers, just that its a risk to general health. food grade plastic is not considered toxic at these doses, but u def dont want it in your body if u can avoid it within reasonable effort. i use freezer bags made from plastic , and reuse plastic ziplocs from some food stuffs i buy to marinate meat, its really convenient to be able to remove the air and have the marinade fully coat the food. i reuse plastic water bottles until i forget them somewhere. im def using plastic to store food. i eat canned food too, and most of the cans mention something about their liner safety right on the can. bpa-ni is interesting, in that they say they dont intentionally use bpa liner, but bpa could still be there, wtf , how are u so unsure as a manufacturer to what ur inputs are on a factory made can. that being said, im not storing food in there for years, only hours when i use plastic in my own processes. plastic in can liners often holds food for years, and the expiration date of canned food is often many years after the food is manufactured and canned.
- kragen 3mo ago"Plastic" is not a material; it's a property or state of many unrelated materials. It doesn't make any more sense to say that plastic is a risk to health than to say that liquid is a risk to health or that crystals are a risk to health.
- jacobgold 3mo agoYou shouldn't use aluminum foil with tomato/lemon/vinegar/brined foods or as "grilling packets" (direct fire/high heat) because of leaching risk. There's no concern with using aluminum in most cases (with dry/non-acidic foods) but leaching is a real problem with acidic/salty/wet/high eat.
- Perz1val 3mo agoI put aluminium foil over a bowl of pizza dough, as it grew the top touched the foil and in a few spots tiny holes appeared in the foil. I wonder if it was carbonic acid or what
- manwe150 3mo agoIt probably formed a weak battery electrode with the bowl and electro-deposited it on the substrate (pizza). Happens often with tomato sauces, like lasagnas.
- kragen 3mo agoOh, thanks! You are surely correct; I was puzzled about how something as relatively inert as pizza dough could corrode aluminum at multiple microns per hour, but electrolysis can definitely do that.
- badc0ffee 3mo agoWhat is the leaching risk, though? If aluminum does get in your food, is it bad for you in a specific way, or is it more like iron?
- a_conservative 3mo agoAluminum is generally thought to be benign by most authorities. However, it is worth noting that humans were not exposed to aluminum in the environment until relatively recently, when we started extracting it from bauxite and melting it.
- manwe150 3mo agoThat aluminum beverage can (and also tin cans) is lined with a kind of plastic, so you and food aren’t in contact with the actual aluminum in that case
- badc0ffee 3mo agoBut the top of the lid is unlined, I think.
- Crunchified 3mo agoI will not give up my Jiffy Pop when camping!
- georgeecollins 3mo agoNothing against aluminum foil here, but we make lasagna at home all the time in a square ceramic baking dish.
- rldjbpin 3mo agohow funny things work - from Napoleon serving his special guests on aluminium utensils [1] to everyone taking it for granted, even treating it as if it is toxic! cost and availability somehow has a negative correlation to how we treat something. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aluminium#Early_industrial_production https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aluminium#Early_ind...