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Hope this forces Anthropic to be less stingy with Fable.

by internet2000 3mo ago

jascha_eng 3mo ago
Not including their best model in a max subscription would otherwise be truly a good reason for once to consider going back to openai for me. I'll at least try it.
- sebra 3mo ago
  At least Anthropic have a max subscription for corporate. Codex is only pay-as-you-go pricing beyond the base plan. Hence I'm stuck with Opus for work for the foreseeable future.
  - embedding-shape 3mo ago
    > Codex is only pay-as-you-go pricing beyond the base plan I don't think so, I'm on a ~$200 subscription (guessing that counts as way beyond "base plan") and have no pay-as-you-go pricing at all, using the OpenAI APIs would be way too expensive for me.
    - NorthSouthNorth 3mo ago
      For corporate * You can't use sub pricing with orgs w/ OpenAI.
  - jascha_eng 3mo ago
    Apparently not? At least our it guy said after 150 people or so you have to pay for enterprise which is pay per token for everyone.
    - carljungslabtek 3mo ago
      This is referring to the Business plan I think (used to be called Teams or something). The problem is that there are two types of seats: normal and codex only. Codex only gets billed at API prices. The normal seats are more like a normal subscription, but their codex limits were LESS than a $20 subscription last time I checked (it used to be the same or more but they reduced it when they introduced the codex only seats).
      - jascha_eng 3mo ago
        im talking about anthropics pricing
satvikpendem 3mo ago
It is not because they want to but because they literally don't have the capacity to.
- sunaookami 3mo ago
  I thought that was solved after the SpaceX deal? Claude is rarely down since that and they have a 1.5x usage promo until 13th July.
  - satvikpendem 3mo ago
    It's a bandaid not a full solution.
- zaptrem 3mo ago
  Why haven’t we seen any queues or the like over the past week then? If it’s truly a capacity limitation why not just boot subscription users to a lower priority queue or limit usage to outside peak hours?
  - LUmBULtERA 3mo ago
    There could be a whole host of reasons. It may be during launch that compute is re-allocated from training to inference so that all users can try Fable. Soon that compute will re-allocate back to training until they can get more compute.
  - satvikpendem 3mo ago
    They are, that's why Fable is going away tomorrow for example.
- gorszon 3mo ago
  What a suprise, to make better models, they just making them larger and larger, then they can barely run it, after a round of LARP-ing that they invented some dangerous LLM?
  - 3mo ago
nullbio 3mo ago
Hopefully they aren't, and their business dies. They're not a good company.
- llelouch 3mo ago
  If Altman wasn't such a liar anthropic wouldn't exist.
matheusmoreira 3mo ago
Yeah. I'll switch to OpenAI if they release Sol on their subscription tiers.

Hope this forces Anthropic to be less stingy with Fable.

Not including their best model in a max subscription would otherwise be truly a good reason for once to consider going back to openai for me. I'll at least try it.

sebra 3mo ago
At least Anthropic have a max subscription for corporate. Codex is only pay-as-you-go pricing beyond the base plan. Hence I'm stuck with Opus for work for the foreseeable future.
- embedding-shape 3mo ago
  > Codex is only pay-as-you-go pricing beyond the base plan I don't think so, I'm on a ~$200 subscription (guessing that counts as way beyond "base plan") and have no pay-as-you-go pricing at all, using the OpenAI APIs would be way too expensive for me.
  - NorthSouthNorth 3mo ago
    For corporate * You can't use sub pricing with orgs w/ OpenAI.
- jascha_eng 3mo ago
  Apparently not? At least our it guy said after 150 people or so you have to pay for enterprise which is pay per token for everyone.
  - carljungslabtek 3mo ago
    This is referring to the Business plan I think (used to be called Teams or something). The problem is that there are two types of seats: normal and codex only. Codex only gets billed at API prices. The normal seats are more like a normal subscription, but their codex limits were LESS than a $20 subscription last time I checked (it used to be the same or more but they reduced it when they introduced the codex only seats).
    - jascha_eng 3mo ago
      im talking about anthropics pricing

satvikpendem 3mo ago

It is not because they want to but because they literally don't have the capacity to.

sunaookami 3mo ago
I thought that was solved after the SpaceX deal? Claude is rarely down since that and they have a 1.5x usage promo until 13th July.
- satvikpendem 3mo ago
  It's a bandaid not a full solution.
zaptrem 3mo ago
Why haven’t we seen any queues or the like over the past week then? If it’s truly a capacity limitation why not just boot subscription users to a lower priority queue or limit usage to outside peak hours?
- LUmBULtERA 3mo ago
  There could be a whole host of reasons. It may be during launch that compute is re-allocated from training to inference so that all users can try Fable. Soon that compute will re-allocate back to training until they can get more compute.
- satvikpendem 3mo ago
  They are, that's why Fable is going away tomorrow for example.
gorszon 3mo ago
What a suprise, to make better models, they just making them larger and larger, then they can barely run it, after a round of LARP-ing that they invented some dangerous LLM?
- 3mo ago

nullbio 3mo ago

Hopefully they aren't, and their business dies. They're not a good company.

llelouch 3mo ago
If Altman wasn't such a liar anthropic wouldn't exist.

matheusmoreira 3mo ago

Yeah. I'll switch to OpenAI if they release Sol on their subscription tiers.