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U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators
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- ndiddy 3mo agohttps://archive.is/QIePX https://archive.is/QIePX > In April, Mr. Ghalibaf was set to travel to Islamabad to meet with Vice President JD Vance. But Iranian security officials were concerned that Israel would use the opportunity to assassinate Mr. Ghalibaf or Mr. Araghchi to derail the talks, the officials said. > Iranians sought guarantees from the United States, through Pakistani and Qatari intermediaries, that Israel would not carry out any covert operations targeting the Iranian delegation, the officials said. > Pakistani fighter jets escorted the Iranian airplanes carrying a delegation of more than 70 Iranians from the border of Iran to Islamabad and back again when the session was over. > But on the way back to Tehran, an Israeli security threat emerged. > Iran’s security forces notified the plane carrying Mr. Ghalibaf back to Tehran that they had picked up intelligence that Israel planned to attack the plane and that two Israeli fighter jets had entered Iran’s airspace from its western border near Iraq, the two officials said. > Mahdi Mohammadi, a senior adviser for Mr. Ghalibaf, who accompanied him to Islamabad, confirmed this account on his social media page. The plane made an emergency landing in the city of Mashhad, Iran’s closest airport to the Pakistani border, and the Iranian delegation traveled some eight hours by land back to Tehran, Mr. Mohammadi and the two officials said.
- fsckboy 3mo agoin what you quoted, nothing says "U.S. officials believed..." as the headline states
- ndiddy 3mo ago> U.S. officials believed that Israel might have been plotting to kill Iran’s top negotiators while Washington was engaged with Tehran in delicate talks this spring to reach an interim peace deal, according to current and former American officials. > Killing senior Iranian leaders had been part of Israel’s strategy from the start of the war. But American concerns about the targeting of two particular Iranian officials — Abbas Araghchi, Iran’s foreign minister, and Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of the Parliament — spiked during delicate cease-fire negotiations that began in April. > Fearful that an Israeli assassination effort would doom the negotiations, the United States, according to some of the officials, went so far as to ask other countries in the region to warn Iran about the possibility Israel could target the two officials.
- bruhlikereally 3mo agoGotta be the most “water is wet” headline I’ve ever read. They literally did this already.
- janalsncm 3mo agoWhen you say “water is wet” and someone asks for evidence, now you will have evidence.
- actionfromafar 3mo agoBut is water still wet?
- cramer4next 3mo ago[flagged]
- throw310822 3mo agoWe deny with all force this slanderous libel that evil people keep spreading because of their senseless hatred. Water is not just not wet, it's in fact the dryest imaginable substance. We have tested it thoroughly in our laboratories- which as everybody knows are the most advanced in the world- and we have found in it not the slightest amount of wetness. I have personally spoken with the US ambassador about this matter and he reaffirmed the complete trust of his country in the absolute dryness of water.
- CamperBob2 3mo agoLaunch an unprovoked attack, do it under cover of negotiation, and then attack diplomatic envoys. Belligerence, perfidy, and I don't even know the term for that last part, it's so unheard-of. We have violated rules of warfare that were already old thousands of years ago. At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?
- Avicebron 3mo ago[flagged]
- CamperBob2 3mo agoNo, I'm just forced to pay for it. Why do you ask?
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- cramer4next 3mo agoI didn't think Iran had internet access except through Russian gateways for the wealthy? Are you by chance in the Cali "Little" Iran district?
- sbayg 3mo agoWhen we killed Kennedy. That was the point we should have admitted being the bad gays.
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- mullingitover 3mo agoIt's incredible how badly the US has been dog-walked by both its 'ally' as well as Iran. "America First" brought to you by "The Peace President"[1]. [1] https://xcancel.com/WhiteHouse/status/1976081153699508480 https://xcancel.com/WhiteHouse/status/1976081153699508480
- wat10000 3mo agoYou’d think he could have done better, what with all that foreign policy experience from his years on The Apprentice.
- Cernunnos 3mo agoThere is only so much you can do when you've been purchased by mossad.
- throwaway85825 3mo agoPurchased, blackmailed, threatened, or all 3. There's a lot of tools in the intelligence toolbox.
- red-iron-pine 3mo agodon't forget the ideological angle -- they've been hyping the Christian rubes that they need to own the holy land so Jesus will come back or some shit.
- mullingitover 3mo agoI don’t blame Israel for that one, evangelicals have a mile-wide apocalyptic streak and there are plenty of homegrown grifters ready to hustle them.
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- Hikikomori 3mo agoCan't believe that Israel would do something they've done several times already.
- diogenescynic 3mo agoThey killed their own citizens on October 7th just to pump up the numbers. There are recordings made public where Ben Gvir is ordering more killings. I can't stand how our mainstream media completely ignores all of Israel's crimes. Even when Israelis come here to sexual assault people in Las Vegas, or open biolabs, or steal technology... it's always swept under the rug.
- IAmBroom 3mo agoI live near a nuclear plant, where an Israeli group was escorted in for a "tour" just before Israel magically obtained enough material for a nuclear bomb. It's widely believed by locals that this was their shopping trip.
- tanseydavid 3mo agoEvery time I see a photo of Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran, Abbas Araghchi, I instantly think I am looking at a picture of author Nicholas Nassim Talib (Black Swan, Fooled by Randomness). Am I the only one?
- jLaForest 3mo agoYou mean again because they already attempted to assainate peace negotiators in Doha months ago
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- eucryphia 3mo agoWhile the IRGC works out how to eliminate Jews from the planet. “First they come for the Saturday people”
- romanhounds 3mo agolmao IRGC isn't rolling on the US, neither is islam in general if that's where you were trying point to that in the silence.
- rasz 3mo agoremind me what is their national chant? https://www.iranintl.com/en/202511042838 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202511042838
- newspaper1 3mo agoOnce again Israel is making us a legitimate target.
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- throw310822 3mo agoThe chant, as officially translated by the government itself [1] means "Down with the USA". "Death to" is a purposeful (literal) mistranslation to make it sound like it's a genocidal statement. 1 e.g. https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/iran-tehran-mural-us-embassy-2019-GettyImages-1138899217.jpg https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/iran-te...
- thomassmith65 3mo agoIs that to say the Islamic Republic of Iran don't necessarily want to eradicate the USA but merely want to see its downfall? I don't have much sympathy for that; it's not like there's some more liberal, more democratic, alternative superpower waiting in the wings.
- helloisrael 3mo agoI’d like someone to steel man for me why is this an HN-compliant topic? I’d love to harp on Israel I don’t even mind being called an anti-Semite or whatever, but give some decent justification why this keeps coming up on Hacker News of all places.
- Jamesbeam 3mo agoWhat you can read between the lines is far more interesting than the headline. I am giving the NYT the credibility that they thoroughly check their sources, so the question is why would anyone from the US Government want this to be publicly available information? It makes all involved parties look like idiots. This report basically says that the us administration currently has terrible intelligence relationships with Israel, if they have not been informed officially as a direct strategic partner in the Iran war over the planned operation. It’s kinda important if your ally plans to blow up the people you negotiate your own peace deal with, don’t you think? It also means that the "we don’t spy on allies", Americans, indeed spy on allies. I’m absolutely shocked. Shocked, I tell you. How else do you get in possession of information that your war ally didn’t seem necessary to share, if not by spying? It also says that Mossad/IDF leaks at the highest level because the assassination of government officials who are actively brokering a peace deal is a kind of very high-level decision. Still, if this actually happened this way, it’s not a power play to make this public, it is dumb. But dumb is the signature move of the current US administration, so it makes the report even more believable. Will be interesting to see how this develops.
- manyaoman 3mo agoVicious. Adding to the mountain of evidence that Israel wants the region in flames.
- Cytobit 3mo agoThe scenario of Israel saying to the US "let's bomb the people you are negotiating with" is how the war started in the first place.
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- pragmatic 3mo agoTrump could care less about that. Operation Epstein Fury had one goal...
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- scarecrowbob 3mo agoYeah a lot of us are tired of it. I dislike the democrats intensely. I also dislike the GOP folks intensely. Which is why I dislike your line of reasoning here: -you- are playing the game we are all tired of. Like, no shit the Dems didn't drop the files because it implicates folks like Bill Clinton. But that doesn't make it the case that DT would be okay with the files dropping either. And it doesn't make it the case that much of the highly spectacular actions his admin takes has nothing to do with achieving material goals and everything to do with keeping his base (which at this point should seem pretty damn dumb given how much damage he has personally done to them) entertained, angry, and confused. And --you-- are the one who brought out the Dems here. You. You are the person doing the thing we are all tired of. Stop it.
- hagbard_c 3mo ago