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BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition with 460-KW Charging, 435-Mile Range
- ryanmerket 4mo agodang that's nice but what's up with the Elon's X logo on the lights?
- MengerSponge 4mo agoThat's prior art if there ever was prior art. It's just unicode U+1D54F
- ryanmerket 4mo agosure, but no other unicode has a multi-million dollar branding campaign behind it ;)
- cineticdaffodil 4mo agoXitter? It used to be called Twitter, but the T crossbeam came loose and down.. sorry
- dole 4mo agoIt's not like they're manji headlights
- jerlam 4mo agoBMW doesn't seem to use that specific X anywhere else for any of their EV lineup. Even the back of the car uses a normal "X" character. I think it's some mandate to give their car models some kind of "signature" headlight design.
- sottol 4mo agoBMW did have the _iconic_ "halo angel eye" headlights in the mid-2000s - the most iconic headlight signature at least in my memory. So your point would make sense. Those were often copied by enthusiasts and "ported" to other cars via aftermarket headlights.
- beastman82 4mo ago...except self driving, where Tesla and Waymo have enormous leads
- rho138 4mo agoHolding tesla to the same standard as waymo is a wild take.
- brotchie 4mo agoI've done 234 Waymo rides and ~5k miles driven FSD in a Model Y (HW4), all in and around the bay area. The gap isn't that big. Tesla still needs supervision (most around navigation honestly). Waymo's have definitely done some really dumb things. Waymo's certainly feel safer but if I had to choose which was the better "human driver" I'd put it on Tesla.
- malfist 4mo agoI'm curious what is in your rubric to determine that a self driving car that doesn't need supervision is a worse driver than a car that does, by your own admission, need supervision.
- brotchie 4mo ago99% of my FSD disengagements are navigation related: leaving it too late to merge into an exit lane (or CA drivers speeding up to not let me merge), not being aggressive enough at going into the opposing lane to overtake a stationary truck (though, it's a lot better at this in recent versions). I can only recall one "oh shit" moment on an older FSD version when it carrier too much speed down a steep hill in SF and went through a 4-way stop and I had to slam the brakes. A lot of the strangeness / hesitance of previous FSD version is gone in the latest updates. I don't expect self driving to be 100% perfect. I feel like FSD today is a 90th percentile human driver with super human reaction speed + visibility. Holding a "never gets into an accident" it too high of a bar. FSD consistently drives better than me (with the caveat of navigation: I know the city, I know which unprotected left turns are easy vs. hard, I know which routes tend to be faster due to local conditions, etc). FSD is excellent in how reactive it is to thing you don't even see: e.g. car on the 101 at slightly drifts into my lane, I didn't notice it, FSD reacted. I feel WAY more unsafe now riding in an Uber vs. hands off FSD'ing in a Tesla.
- zuzululu 4mo agohow much is the battery to replace ? did anybody fix that ?
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- klaff 4mo agoThe battery is warranted for 8 years or 100,000 miles and you are a simple internet search away from many articles on how long EV batteries are lasting (which is generally quite long).
- zuzululu 4mo agoi checked and that warranty assumes constant unchanging weather conditions in reality these cars get used in fluctuating weather that expand and contract the battery unit and put additional wear on them, there is simply no way the warranty itself is expected to last as long as they claim Porsche in particular have found out the hard way .
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- klaff 4mo ago> warranty assumes constant unchanging weather conditions What on earth are you talking about?
- bluGill 4mo agoThere is o evidence the typical EV will need a battery replacement within its useful life. The Leaf is the only EV with that problem, everyone else so far seems to be doing well as a battery is a lifetime part. Only time will tell, but that is what our current data says. I'm sure there will be exceptions but they are collectors who keep a car for 100 years.
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- simonbarker87 4mo agoIt’s a shame it’s quite possibly the ugliest car I’ve seen in a long time.
- ai_slop_hater 4mo agoElon Musk would love it lol
- jonshariat 4mo agoI am a great example of how true this is. I wanted an electric car, I wanted a BMW for a long time, I tried to convince myself to buy one for months but couldn't get over how ugly they were. Why do companies destroy their iconic designs when they go electric? So sick of "space car" designs for electric.
- avhception 4mo agoIt's also just a ginormous hunk of metal. Which also makes the long range kinda moot, strapping a bigger battery will of course result in a bigger range. I'm guessing the car doesn't make any improvements on the efficiency?
- Markoff 4mo agoTBH even ICE BMWs from recent years all look like fugly tanks
- iosguyryan 4mo agoThe screen cut ins, typographic headlights, and crystal scroller wheels scream "teenager escaped room due to Bitcoin". BMW has many timeless designs to pull from in the last 30-40 years, but chose to pass the mature confident adult torch to the likes of Volvo and Rivian...
- wil421 4mo agoFor me the last generation, F-series, was pretty much e46 3.0. You can only iterate so many times. Neue Klasse is a bit odd but I thought the same thing about the F and G model runs. I’ll need to see it in person. BMW is dethroning Mercedes and continually beating Audi sales in the US. I’m surprised so many people would buy a car if they thought it was ugly. Benz reliability has tanked and Audi is lackluster as usual.
- tiahura 4mo agoRealistically $100k for a 5 series.
- apparent 4mo agoWell, it's an X5 competitor, and it's apparently only $10k more than the base ICE version. Considering this is the extended range EV version, that's not terrible. TFA says pricing for the regular-range version has not been announced yet. I will be curious to see where it comes in, since this the extended range version is only $2,500 more than the PHEV. Not a lot of wiggle room in there!
- strictnein 4mo agoProbably, yeah. Wouldn't surprise me if it got close to $110k fully equipped. We looked at the BMW iX (which this iX5 replaces), and that was going for ~$95k, although it had some insanely good lease deals. We settled on the X5 50e. ~40-45 mile electric range with an overall ~450-500 mile range, and rather good performance when you want/need it. Total price well equipped was ~$92-94k. Also drives a lot nicer than the iX did. We are getting an equivalent of about ~800 miles a tank. Could do better, but we only use the basic charger on 110v, which charges at a rate of ~1 mile an hour.
- apparent 4mo agoHow much does maintenance cost? When I had a BMW, service was really expensive. Does the fact that most of your miles are on electric change the calculus? Obviously things like tires wear out based on total miles, but presumably some of the ICE-related services don't end up being as frequent?
- strictnein 3mo agoSorry, didn't see this until now. I just lease them, so I haven't paid for any maintenance on a vehicle for about 10 years.
- nkotov 4mo agoI own a G90 M5. While definitely a heavy car, I love having best of both worlds on demand. Having driven 7 different Tesla's previously as daily drivers, there is something convenient about being able to fill up extremely quickly when on road trips. My only issue with it is the small gas tank which means I have to refill it once a week currently with the way I drive. I really don't like BMW's direction with Neue Klasse. It just looks stupid for the sake of being different.
- wil421 4mo agoMy g05 X5 M60i is a great car, probably the best SUV I’ve ever owned. Fantastic gas mileage on long trips and more power than I need for when I don’t care. The Tesla interior was so cheap I couldn’t make the jump. The PHEV X5 50e or 550e is what I want in a car. EV Range for my commute and daily stuff plus I can fill up instantly on long trips. I have 3 young kids so long stops are not ideal for me. Agree with Neue Klasse, I’m more of an LCI guy myself when new models come around. I’m tempted to grab a g80 M3 before production stops but the idea of 3 kids kicking my Tartufo Carbon Buckets is a put off.
- bakies 4mo agoseven teslas??? I've driven two cars the entire time the company has existed
- tencentshill 4mo agoThis guy owns a $125k sports car. Not super surprising.
- t1234s 4mo agoIs it a better trend to add more and more batteries to increase range or keep a target 250ish mile range and over time remove batteries as they improve in power density?
- AdamN 4mo agoFirst off range should be based off of 70mph/110kph since that's what actually matters when people talk about range (how far away from home can I get on a full tank?). And 250 miles just isn't far enough to fully mitigate range anxiety. I would say about 300-350+ miles is the sweet spot that higher end makers should target.
- jeffbee 4mo agoA scant 6,393 pounds, empty. California needs to outlaw this bullshit immediately.
- strictnein 4mo agoOutlaw physics? Batteries weigh a lot.
- ricardobayes 4mo agoThe real competition has 1MW charging. BYD has installed some of these chargers in Europe recently. It's really interesting to see the battery charge go up in real time.
- jp191919 4mo agoBYD is doing some amazing things
- jeffbee 4mo ago1MW charging is a cute stunt but the economics simply do not make sense. The amount of copper and equipment to support that rate is ridiculous.
- ricardobayes 4mo agoI don't doubt that, however they seem to have approx. 500 of these chargers across China.
- misnome 4mo agoSo, basically none
- Simboo 4mo agoNice headline, dumb looking car though. You’re designer definitely takes it in the bellybutton.
- rconti 4mo ago144kWh (!!) to get 435mi range though.
- buggeryorkshire 4mo agoWe just bought an Audi A6 Avant Performance which is a year old and about the same spec? Missus is a BMW person and really wanted another, but they were not competitive. I did a 380 mile journey in it at around 85% battery and it was awesome.
- stasomatic 4mo agoLove the looks of the A6 Avant, but at $150K it's in a different price bracket, no? Used to lust for the Allroads 20 years ago, aka German Outbacks.
- buggeryorkshire 4mo agoCost me £40k for it with 15 miles on the clock. They are definitely having issues shifting them.
- stasomatic 4mo agoNo way, that's a hell of a deal. I barely see any in the states, nor other ultra wagons. My last one wasn't Ultra, more like a Pro - a 2002 e28. Was great for my Akita back then, low entry height and the dog net in the back. The current Akita has troubles with my SUV's height.
- buggeryorkshire 4mo agoGo look on autotrader in the UK, there's tonnes around that price. Think they had to make room for the 2026 model. We did the same btw, have a 4 year old Labrador with hip displacia so wanted the estate with the low boot, hence the estate.
- drcongo 4mo agoHeadline should be "BMW iX5 Blows Away the Competition in the US". This is lagging stuff coming out of China.
- haunter 4mo ago€102,800 to €125,000 lol Yeah I know it's a luxury car but still
- twistedanimator 4mo agoRemember when they released the i3? From the company that released some pretty amazing looking cars, that was their first entry into the EV market? They certainly didn't want them to sell and were going to use the low sales as evidence that no one wants EVs. Now I fear it's too late for them as they're going to get their lunch eaten by Chinese EV companies that actually put in a good faith effort.
- theturtle 4mo ago[dead]