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“So the feature mostly punishes the exact people who are easier to fingerprint: normal developers doing weird but legitimate things” What’s the punishment here
by MattDamonSpace 4mo ago
“So the feature mostly punishes the exact people who are easier to fingerprint: normal developers doing weird but legitimate things”
What’s the punishment here exactly?
- femboyvtuber 4mo agoReturning invalid poisoned different results that were not what you paid for
- pedropaulovc 4mo agoHigher odds of being banned for legitimate usage.
- Beigale 4mo ago[dead]
- solenoid0937 4mo agoIf you are accessing Claude through the listed domains it is not "legitimate use."
- dakolli 4mo agofor using a proxy service.. wtf
- bakugo 4mo agoOutput poisoning and/or eventual account bans, if I had to guess.
- realusername 4mo agoThey probably run a heavily dumbed down version of the model, same as what they got caught doing with Fable. And that's also why, as a legitimate customer, want none of it, you never know if you accidentally entered a zone they don't like.
- mgraczyk 4mo ago"got caught" to clarify, this behavior was announced with the model release
- pishpash 4mo agoThe extent got caught.
- bel8 4mo agoif by announce you mean shove it somewhere in a pdf with hundreds of pages, yes
- Quinner 4mo agohttps://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5 This is not hundreds of pages and it gets its own bold headline section.
- bel8 4mo agoWrong. That page is after they walked back because of the outrage. The original was on the PDF as reported in this article: > If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know https://jonready.com/blog/posts/claude-fable5-is-allowed-to-sabotage-your-app-if-youre-a-competitor.html https://jonready.com/blog/posts/claude-fable5-is-allowed-to-... HN post with 1k+ comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48467896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48467896
- DonsDiscountGas 4mo agoThe original announcement page mentioned this. It was very obvious. That's why so many people noticed it immediately, because it was announced.
- thepasch 4mo ago> What’s the punishment here exactly? Seeing as how Anthropic cannot stop raising a stink about "illicit Chinese distillation attacks" every month or so, I'd bet money on them either already silently degrading model performance if any of the identification patterns match, or, at the very least, considering it/doing dry runs. Particularly considering that they've openly stated that the technology to do so exists and that they were going to use it in production on Fable.
- eli 4mo agoFor being flagged as possibly a competitor? They nuke your account.