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Texas man sentenced to 30 years for transporting pamphlets
- freitasm 3mo agoMeanwhile, the Epstein files continue to be ignored.
- casey2 3mo agoThose pamphlets are the Epstein files
- functionmouse 3mo agoMay I see the zine?
- tartoran 3mo agoWhat difference does it make? The point being that nobody should be sentenced for transporting pamphlets, regardless of what's in them. And the 30 year sentence? This is absurd.
- functionmouse 3mo agoI wanna see what the administration is so afraid of.
- tartoran 3mo agoI don't think they're necessarily afraid of what's in those pamphlets. I think they're trying to make people afraid to dissent, and I have to say they're having some success at it.
- blooalien 3mo agoThey're afraid of "We The People". They want us all too scared to do or say (or even think) anything about anything they do, no matter how heinous the crimes they choose to perpetrate against the citizenry of the "Land of the Free".
- zulux 3mo agoBecause we should be able to examine the evidence ourselves. It would let us, as a free people, decide whether this was overreach or valid.
- rsync 3mo agoI want to see the zine(s) so I can duplicate them and publish them at Kozubik.com.
- lanyard-textile 3mo agoA zine about anarchy, apparently. But I can't find any details.
- verdverm 3mo agoWikipedia has an image of a few https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention_center_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention... There are some pretty standard anarchist / anti-government like zines. You can find them on the various zine aggregators like: https://guides.library.illinois.edu/zines/online https://guides.library.illinois.edu/zines/online Feminist culture coming out of the 70s also incorporates many of the same themes. The first one at the zine link, "Moral Revolution - Creating new values, undermining oppression, and connecting across difference" by Kriti Sharma is quite good.
- projektfu 3mo agoIt doesn't matter if it was a gardening monthly, the charge was basically that his girlfriend was arrested and asked him to move it, and, something something terrorism.
- jjgreen 3mo agoYes, but it will cost you a 10 stretch.
- josefritzishere 3mo agoYou can see the titles here: https://theintercept.com/2025/11/23/prairieland-ice-antifa-zines-criminalize-protest-journalism/ https://theintercept.com/2025/11/23/prairieland-ice-antifa-z...
- coldtea 3mo agoland of the unfree
- verdverm 3mo agoIt's federal, a democratic president can pardon them
- zulux 3mo ago[flagged]
- mecsred 3mo agoThe person being sentenced was not involved in any way based on this information.
- antonyt 3mo agoYou commented on this thread! You must be involved! Prison for you.
- 4MOAisgoodenuf 3mo agoBut is anyone you know going to be within the vicinity of a crime being committed? That'll be 30 years
- pjc50 3mo agoAnyone got the actual indictment? From linked https://freedes.net/jun-23rd-2026-press-release/ https://freedes.net/jun-23rd-2026-press-release/ : "Sanchez Estrada, a 39-year-old artist, was found guilty on March 13, 2026, alongside eight codefendants who participated in an anti-ICE protest at the controversial Alvarado ICE detention facility. Under the auspices of “National Security Presidential Memorandum-7,” which was issued after the killing of Christian nationalist influencer Charlie Kirk, Sanchez Estrada was federally charged with “corruptly concealing a document or record” for moving a box of zines the day after the protest. Although he was not present at the protest, nor did he know about it, prosecutors argued that the content of the literature made it evidence of the defendants’ material support for terrorism, and shockingly alleged that the decision to move the box was a conspiracy between Sanchez Estrada and his wife." Very .. British approach to linking people to "terrorism" on the flimsiest pretext.
- verdverm 3mo agoThis seems to be the PR piece around the indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/antifa-cell-members-indicted-prairieland-shooting https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/antifa-cell-members-ind...
- fc417fc802 3mo agoAssuming the quoted source can be trusted then we've got a conspiracy without knowledge of the thing being conspired about plus a blatantly unconstitutional line of argument regarding political views (either held or written take your pick). Last I checked creating a pamphlet about how awesome and amazing Bin Laden was qualified as protected speech.
- staticman2 3mo ago> nor did he know about it I'm not loving this turn of phrase. Seems very Weasel-worded. Did not know about it according to who? I think we need a better news source.
- 4MOAisgoodenuf 3mo agowhat difference does it make? He is sentenced to go to jail for nearly half a lifetime for transporting a box of magazines. This is insane.
- NoSalt 3mo agoMisleading title. The relevant sentence is this: > "The prosecution claimed Sanchez moved the zines so they wouldn’t incriminate his wife, who attended a protest outside the Prairieland immigration detention center near Dallas, where a police officer was wounded by gunfire." The "Texas man" in question was involved in evidence tampering in a case that involved the shooting of a police officer. The title here makes it sound like simply moving paper around is against the law.
- mikestew 3mo agoIt’s still a flimsy basis for the case. He didn’t attend the protest nor even knew about it. The motivation wasn’t proven, it’s all in the prosecution’s head for all we know.
- frakt0x90 3mo agoAnd even so, why on Earth would tampering with evidence warrant 30 years in prison? That is inhumane.
- tbrownaw 3mo agoI would think that a coverup should always be treated as slightly worse than the thing being covered up. Because of general "don't design systems with perverse incentives" principles.
- stonogo 3mo agoThe thing being covered up here is being in the general area when someone else committed a crime. I'm not seeing how 30 years lines up with slightly worse than that.
- fc417fc802 3mo agoOnly in the case that you can prove both thing and intent to cover up thing beyond a reasonable doubt. And in that case since you've got both convictions then covering it up only needs to carry a small penalty (relative to thing). If you don't have to prove thing then you end up with a situation where all sorts of mundane actions can be construed as covering something up.
- FrustratedMonky 3mo agoI'd like to say something. But now that they are rounding people up, and Hacker News can be scraped and User Id's crosschecked with AI surveillance to dox. I'm actually fearful, the war on free speech is working.
- d00d0ff000 3mo agoStrange that it has just occurred to you that HN is being mined.
- FrustratedMonky 3mo agonot 'just'. but someone being jailed for having a 'zine', is really a new level. nobody is safe.
- fc417fc802 3mo agoThe article attempts to frame this as a speech issue but isn't it actually some sort of obstruction or concealing violation? But what was even the point? The pamphlets were never going to be the smoking gun. Also since when does obstruction net you 30 years? And apparently the judge openly made a statement indicating unconstitutional bias on his part in court. So I guess the entire thing is a farce meant to intimidate the average joe.
- TimorousBestie 3mo ago> And apparently the judge openly made a statement indicating unconstitutional bias on his part in court. So I guess the entire thing is a farce meant to intimidate the average joe. Yeah, the judge is well aware that every court this case can be appealed to already agrees with him. The legal arguments and the facts of the case are causally disconnected from the outcome.
- tbrownaw 3mo agoHere's an older article, talking about how the reason the authorities found this person was because one of the other defendants called him from jail to ask him to remove things: https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-busted-anti-government-anti-trump-documents-after-texas-ice-ambush-suspect-phone-call-feds-say https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-busted-anti-government-anti-t... I would expect that at that point it ought to stop mattering whether the evidence being hidden actually would have been useful evidence.
- fc417fc802 3mo agoThanks to you pointing that out this case has now managed to set a personal record for simultaneous level of disgust I hold for all parties involved.
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- PowerElectronix 3mo agoThey really are cracking down on those protestors, jeez... Makes you wonder how much money is rolling in the ICE-Private prison system relationship.
- ChrisArchitect 3mo agoSome more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48653311 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48653311
- jauntywundrkind 3mo agoThe top comment there is so illuminating. The National Lawyers Guild declaring that these defendants werent even allowed to mount a real defense! This sounds like an incredible shame upon America, mostly. I hope many of these sentences are pardoned by a future president.
- josefritzishere 3mo agoThis is the most clear cut and direct attack on the first amendment I've seen in my lifetime. It's really viscerally disappointing to see the US government fall to this low. Attacking an ideology is real meat of authoritarianism.
- Haven880 3mo agoAh....so USA is the new CCP.