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Tacky men with ridiculous glasses want you to wear them too
- PaulHoule 4mo agoI think passthrough has no future. VR games are fun, immersive applications are real, AR adds a dimension to that but without the immersive applications tech bros will keep failing at this one.
- miladyincontrol 4mo agoI’m inclined to believe in a future a bit less binary and more MR in general. Devices that can handle a variety of experiences from 1% augmented to 100% virtual.
- malfist 4mo agoWell as long as we're all stating opionins at each other, I think bikes with 650b tires are the future
- bigfishrunning 4mo agoIn the future, all cars will have fins
- nostrademons 4mo agoVR is for games, AR is for businesses. I've seen legit-useful AR apps for doctors/surgeons, dentists, firefighters, law enforcement, warehouse workers, etc. Basically anything where you need to be out in the real world doing something that would benefit from having situational-awareness of other non-visual conditions. This is a pretty wide swath of professions, with a lot of potential to save lives. Just having a patient's vital signs projected while a surgeon operates could prevent many deaths on the operating table, along with lots of fuck-ups like leaving a scalpel behind in the patient.
- dylan604 4mo ago> AR adds what really worries me would be AR ads
- marssaxman 4mo agoIf AR glasses could run an adblocker for the real world, that might convince me to buy a pair.
- VTimofeenko 4mo agoI'd pay top dollar for an adblocker that would replace ads with "They Live" references
- mrkpdl 4mo agoI did quite a bit of work in VR about a decade ago. The VR vs AR delineation was a constant conversation back then too. In meetings, at the bar, and so on: “This VR sure isn’t great but just you wait, AR will be the good one”… But in reality it’s splitting hairs. Similar to discussing which tone pot values are better for your Stratocaster. Most people just don’t care, nor should they! “Stop trying to make fetch happen” as they say.
- lostlogin 4mo agoThis is so much like something of the amazing series Silicon Valley. Fucking billionaires.
- SkiFreeWin3 4mo agoIndustrial use cases will be huge once software+AI are firing on all cylinders. I’m a skeptic on the consumer side of this being a runaway hit like smartphones. Enterprise and industrial and the trades use cases in physical space is big.
- reaperducer 4mo agoIndustrial use cases will be huge once software+AI are firing on all cylinders. Industry has had entire VR rooms since at least the 1990's, when I saw one in use. AR glasses are toys compared to what the big oil companies have been using to visualize underground strata since before Facebook et.al. even existed. Pretending that they're going to revolutionize the industrial space is just grasping at straws to justify a gadget that nobody other than tech bros and perverts want.
- Terr_ 4mo agoIndustrial use-cases could end up as fundamentally different product, ex: * Guiding someone through a complex assembly, it's going to be on pretty much all shift, with effects on thermal management and battery capacity. * You'll want to swap batteries so that it can be used by another shift, which will take priority over fashion. * It may also need to incorporate positioning markers and QR codes and external sensor data from a particular environment, sometimes taking preference over any general object recognition. * Facial recognition won't figure very much. * Ruggedness and repairability may be prioritized over miniaturization. * Little to no tolerance for letting the vendor have footage or vague "telemetry" when trade secrets are involved. In other words, it's like kind of like how the design/use/adoption of freight trains isn't necessarily indicative of the design/use/adoption of pickup trucks. Sure, they both move large things on wheels using diesel power, but...
- dylan604 4mo ago> * Ruggedness and repairability may be prioritized over miniaturization. repairability? in what trend are you seeing that being a thing? they'll just make you buy an expensive warranty/insurance plan for replacements. i really don't see tech allowing for repairability
- panny 4mo agoYesterday's story about airpods causing wearers to isolate themselves and become unhappier comes to mind. Headphones in your ears, display in your glasses... about the only way to connect with anyone will be to smell really bad I guess.
- throe93934 4mo agoThe "smell" will be a pepper sprey! Why people can not just leave strangers alone? Always soliciting attention and "look at me" attitude! Most people are not "isolating themselves", they have stuff to do and places to be. They do not want to talk about some animal, or current issue of today!
- Gigachad 4mo agoI can just imagine people walking around in a daze while instagram reels play endlessly in their meta spy glasses.
- VTimofeenko 4mo agoFolks are already walking (and driving, which is more scary) in a daze, glued to their doomscrolling rectangles
- Hugsbox 4mo agoWhy did this site prompt me for permission to send notifications? Did my browser just do something weird? Seems strange
- zachmorrison 4mo agosame question
- Hugsbox 4mo agoOkay, great, I was genuinely not certain it was the site or something I somehow did
- caymanjim 4mo agoTons of sites do that, because everyone who designs websites is a moron.
- BeetleB 4mo agoHe doesn't like Zuckerberg's glasses, but he likes using his same dirty tactics!
- rpgbr 4mo agoBlog owner here. The notification prompt uses standard browser support for this. I know many people don’t like, but there are some that appreciate getting updates this way. FYI, every major browser has a global switch to disable notification prompts like my blog did. It works as expected.
- dieselgate 4mo ago> Sorry for exposing you to this image The photo captions are hilarious: "Style icons"; "Ahead of his time"
- needSomeCoffee 4mo agoI read in another thread on another site that the Snapchat SPECs were targeted at developers. If not are they going to market with what Evan is attempting to wear at over $2K ?? Insights appreciated, NSC.
- Brendinooo 4mo agoI don't love the idea of smart glasses and I'm definitely very concerned about the implications of their widespread adoption. And yes, most of what we've seen hasn't looked very good. But when I see a headline like "tacky men with ridiculous glasses" I get a sense that the intent is more to persuade via bullying than anything else, which...I dunno. Doesn't feel great!
- reactordev 4mo agoSlips past the filters when “Voyeur glasses let you record your creepy interactions with females” gets flagged.
- smokedetector1 4mo agoI find it to be an acceptable use of mockery, one of the most powerful cultural methods of exposing that the emperor has no clothes
- BeetleB 4mo agoI'm not finding it to be any different from "Four eyes!"
- smokedetector1 4mo agozuck is trying to push bad, ugly glasses to profit at the expense of causing nefarious social impact. the blog is mocking the ugliness of the glasses. it represents how out of touch zuck is. i’m not sure how you got to “four eyes” from there
- BeetleB 4mo ago> zuck is trying to push bad, ugly glasses ... > i’m not sure how you got to “four eyes” from there I'm guessing you're younger than me. In my youth, having glasses meant being ugly.
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- _dain_ 4mo agoI hope theft deters people from wearing these perv glasses. They're easier to nick than phones since owner isn't gripping them at all. I'd tolerate a fair amount of crime and public disorder as part of this tradeoff, like how we keep predators around to control pests.
- bjterry 4mo agoThe Meta glasses camera has a very wide field of view. You'd need to be quite close to a person to realistically take "pervy" photos, and it'd be really obvious. Seems like it'd be no better at this than a cell phone.
- doublerabbit 4mo agoAs someone who wears glasses, I hate glasses. Yet these wears are never designed for those with glasses so you have to buy add ons to ensure you can see out these glasses. To have eyesight without glasses would be bliss, minus laser surgery.
- hdndjsbbs 4mo agoAgreed, I can't even remember to wear my prescription eyeglasses that help me see and not get a headache. No chance I'm going to wear worse, heavier, more expensive glasses so I can take pictures and have AI talk to me 24/7. I guess I'll move to a cabin in the woods.
- arjie 4mo agoMy wife wore Meta glasses (we borrowed a pair from a friend) on a visit to the Vancouver aquarium and they were frankly amazing. You could just hit a button and say something like “what’s that orange fish in the back?” and it just tells you and then you can read stuff off the plate or get more information if you need. I get that this kind of dunk polemic is popular among a certain crowd but it’s more incantatory than persuasive. For the rest of us who don’t particularly dress stylishly or whatever I guess it’s fine. I can be tacky. Not the greatest sin.
- milkshakes 4mo agoyou can already do this with your phone without casually and needlessly invading the privacy of everyone around you
- arjie 4mo agoYes, and now I can do it with my glasses without casually and needlessly invading the privacy of everyone around me - except the fish and I’m not that convinced by an argument for fish privacy.
- AgentME 4mo agoIs the phone's camera more privacy-preserving than the glasses's camera?
- frizlab 4mo agoYes, obviously? Holding a phone to film someone is obvious, having glasses that film is just having glasses…
- bloody-crow 4mo agoWhat kind of privacy are people supposed to expect in a public place like an aquarium?
- layer8 4mo agoZuckerberg looks like Woody Allen in that photo. :)
- type0 4mo agoand equally creepy
- montag 4mo agoI agree that VR goggles hit a ceiling due to simple inconvenience. Whether smart glasses will suffer the same fate is a very interesting question. But the article would be much more effective without the cheap “tech bro” ridicule. Ultimately, after calling every product ugly, the analysis put forward by this author comes down to “short battery life and privacy concerns”.
- rpgbr 4mo agoNo, it wouldn’t.
- semiinfinitely 4mo agolinks to pages which ask if they can send you notifications should be insta-flagged + banned on hn
- BeetleB 4mo ago> sold a few million camera glasses for pervs I stopped reading. If you want to convince people, try to meet them where they're at.
- mrkpdl 4mo ago> sold a few million camera glasses for pervs I think that’s a reasonable characterisation of what people think of these devices. Even if not strictly for perving it’s still seriously uncool to go around pointing a camera at people 100% of the time. So maybe ‘glasses for inconsiderate people who are sometimes also pervs’ is a better description?
- BeetleB 4mo ago> I think that’s a reasonable characterisation of what people think of these devices. It's not a reasonable characterization of the people that wear these devices, and that's what the sentence is implying. > Even if not strictly for perving it’s still seriously uncool to go around pointing a camera at people 100% of the time. Isn't it great, then, that these glasses don't do that? Years ago I lived in a country where your type of comment is precisely what much of society said about smartphones. Taking one out in a social event brought a lot of angry stares. Welcome to that demographic.
- bigfishrunning 4mo ago> Isn't it great, then, that these glasses don't do that? Are the cameras somehow removable? Is there an obvious lens cap? If not, then everyone in your field of view is at the business end of a camera lens all of the time, and might as well be filming. Even if I trust the wearer of these glasses to not be constantly recording, I certainly don't trust the manufacturer of them.
- delis-thumbs-7e 4mo agoWhat country is that, sounds amazing?
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- janalsncm 4mo agoI would encourage anyone who has a chance to book a Vision Pro demo at an Apple Store. It changed my mind in the following way: Previously, I thought AVPs were expensive, ridiculous and useless. Now I think they are expensive and still mostly ridiculous and useless. I saw the immersive movies and the immersive sports experiences. If they had AVP support for MLB/NBA games in my market I would absolutely buy a subscription. I think they have Lakers now but I don’t care about that. From what I understand, there’s still a chicken and egg problem for Meta and Apple with regards to content and devices. It sucks because both companies are flush and could fix it if they wanted to. The device itself still costs too much though.
- svachalek 4mo agoI keep getting this ad for... Meta? glasses that shows a guy at a concert I guess filming it with his glasses. It zooms out and everyone around him has their phone in the air but not him because he's super cool. It's like one of those puzzle images where you're supposed to find 20 things wrong with this picture.
- joemi 4mo agoSince when was looking ridiculous a hindrance to being fashionable?
- entontoent 4mo agoThis feels like I'm reading a comment written by anti-video game moms in the early 90s talking about the stupid unfashionable nerds and how they were ushering in a frightening new age of fewer values and greater social isolation. I dunno, I'd love to have elf-like abilities to see systems of energy in the world around me that the human eye can't see, like wind patterns, and be able to zoom in on plants and animals in the garden and woods where I hike. I can't wait to see the skins people create for themselves, just walking around the world on holidays with fun appearances. And I'm excited for all the identity crises coming. Philosophy as physical reality. But I guess this is as diverse of a human experience as y'all are willing to tolerate. :/
- sdevonoes 4mo agoTechnically speaking, yeah, those things are cool. What’s not cool (anymore?) is that people like Zuck and other similar billionaires are behind such tech. I didn’t give a shit of the millionaires of the 80s/90s… but these billionaires of today, simply suck big time. So fuck them
- entontoent 4mo agoYeah this is the part that really sucks
- Affric 4mo agoThat’s not what you see when you wear the glasses, you will see a symbol, a series of symbols, a facsimile of life that you will convince yourself is real. It’s not elf like, it’s not magic, it’s not a sense, quite the opposite, it’s replacing sensing and processing with reading. The death of aptitude, prowess, and the human experience.
- lmm 4mo ago> replacing sensing and processing with reading. The death of aptitude, prowess, and the human experience. Replacing something all animals do with something uniquely human, perhaps the most important thing that sets us apart, is the death of the human experience?
- idreyn 4mo agoI'm rooting for this general class of technology as a platform for sensory augmentation for the blind. I don't know exactly what sonic encoding of spatial information is exactly ideal — I suspect it's something echo-like, only slowed-down — but it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to develop it and support it on commodity hardware. Please no Meta login, though.
- gherkinnn 4mo agoThese people have no taste. But I must admit, similar things regarding style were said about the AirPods and here we are.
- Ratfor 4mo agoThe accessibility features for blind and low-sight individuals is life-changing. These are available already for Meta glasses, and I am very hopeful that the Google Audio glasses will be as good. The problem is not the glasses.
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- dools 4mo agoThe new Google ones don't look too bad.
- delecti 4mo agoI'm actually looking forward to AR glasses getting more mainstream. My dream is glasses with displays that show live captions for people speaking. My auditory processing kinda sucks, and live captions would be a huge help in conversations. I'd also see the appeal of a HUD with some basic information like compass direction, clock, and weather, but really just captions would be awesome. But all of the mainstream glasses are basically just bad earbuds and cameras. The idea of permanent cameras on my face feels creepy as hell, and there are a million better options for earbuds. It also feels ridiculous to get a device with a permanent connection to one single company's AI. It's like a dedicated Hulu button on a smart TV's remote, but several cranked several notches dumber.
- qkeast 4mo agoI’m deaf and just got a pair of Even G2 glasses, which have a live captioning mode and no camera. They’re already lifechanging, even if they come with the risk of being taken away at any moment if the company shuts down or discontinues support.
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- anigbrowl 4mo agoAll of the people whining about the tone of this are way off base. These glasses are a joke because they are too large for the human head. They are visibly crushing the ears of the wearers. They are so large that if you bend your neck or back to look at something they will fall off. But it's making fun of people who wear glasses No it isn't. I've had to wear glasses with thick ass lenses since the age of 5 and I am telling you with my 50 years of glasses-wearing experience that these glasses are stupid because they were very clearly designed by people who don't have to wear glasses. Defending these is like saying that people who laugh at bicycle wheels with rounded corners are being shapeist. It's not about the fashion, or the technology, or even the social applications. It's because these are not ready for market and anyone who makes the mistake of buying them is going to regard them as a $2000 paperweight by the end of week 1.
- rpgbr 4mo agoWhy this post was flagged?
- penguin_booze 4mo agoClearly, someone was offended.
- nickvec 4mo agoThe glasses David Gilboa is sporting honestly don’t look that bad. I think putting them in the same “ugly” bucket as Snapchat’s SPECS is a bit of a reach.
- deepfriedchokes 4mo agoThis stuff is probably inevitable since economics will drive data collection. What we really need is a digital bill of rights to protect everyone. Recording in public without consent also needs to end.
- gmueckl 4mo agoI feel like there is a lot pf potential for display-based AR in a glasses form factor. I wouldn't want to dismiss that outright. However, the concern about sensors (cameras and microphones) in the glasses is also real, despite them adding potentially the most value to those devices. The tech will make its way into commercial applications and assistive technology. Beyind that, things can go a couple of ways: - There is a killer application with mass appeal and thise glasses become common in public - Consumer devices will lose their cameras due to large scale pushback. This will kill one of their major AI-related selling points (images as context). Microphines, although potentially equally intrusive, are more likely to stay. - Comsumer devices will fade away in their entirety.