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It's great to be in a position to do this, however I'm beginning to think that their greater contribution is ghostty I don't really know how to value things a
by Lerc 4mo ago
It's great to be in a position to do this, however I'm beginning to think that their greater contribution is ghostty
I don't really know how to value things any more when I see someone develop a tool that is kind-of useful that then gets acquired for half a billion dollars. As someone with a decent number of decades of terminal hopping, the improvement that ghostty has brought a breath of fresh air. To me it has represented more utility that a few of those acquisitions.
- wickrom 4mo agoI'd love to hear what made you settle on ghostty. There is not dearth of terminal emulators out there, each claiming performance or batteries included.
- dust-jacket 4mo agoI'm not the commenter, but for me ghostty was good for being a Very Good terminal experience with almost no config required. Just checked and the config file for my daily use terminal setup is 3 lines long. 3! That means I know I can chuck it on any system, any clean re-install, and it'll be Fine. That counts for a lot when you've grown tired of endless config tweaking.
- zemnl 4mo agoSame for me. My config is a couple lines longer, but other than font-family, font-size, color theme and a couple of other settings I didn't need to change anything else. I definitely spent way less time configuring it to suit my needs that I did with any other terminal I used before.
- ngrilly 4mo agoSame. Almost everything works out of the box, with great defaults.
- noisy_boy 4mo agoSeconded. I keep hearing about ghostty but I have yet to see a strong enough justification about how it is _that_ better. I use konsole and has significantly more user friendly screen to manage settings. I heard about ghostty's performance so I did some timing tests and ghostty was faster than konsole but not that much - not in any perceptibly significant measurable sense.
- beepbooptheory 4mo agoI never got the speed thing. Ghostty at least seems slower on my machine compared to foot(client).
- MMMaellon 4mo agoI tested kitty, foot, and ghostty on my machine when picking a terminal and ghostty was the slowest of the 3. I'm using kitty now. YMMV because this is just one data point (but the most important data point for me)
- warmwaffles 4mo agoI went from Alacritty to Ghostty for ligatures and some other small goodies. I could probably get those same goodies with Kitty, but I didn't want to try nor have the desire to try. I may go back to Alacritty if I grow tired of Ghostty.
- robocat 4mo agoI've always found ligatures (fi, ff, ffi etc) really ugly. Or are you talking about using them for hacked purposes (-> in C)? Then again I don't put different foods on my fork when eating - which seems relevant.
- warmwaffles 4mo ago`==`, `===`, `->`, `-->` are more pleasant to read with ligatures on. It's silly, but nice.
- hack1312 4mo agoi switched from iTerm 2 on macOS because it would get bogged down sometimes or occasionally lag. it’s been noticeably faster and i appreciate the file-based config as well as the defaults, leading to my config being under 5 lines. on linux i use the default terminal in gnome which is ptyxis now iirc and haven’t felt any need to switch.
- copperx 4mo agoDon't you miss the crazy configuration options that iterm2 has?
- hack1312 4mo agothe craziest thing i did with its config was to swap the profile being used based on the pattern of the instance’s hostname the terminal was logged into. The idea was to make the terminal background red on production hosts to give a visual indicator to avoid running anything destructive on prod hosts.
- binarin 4mo agolibghostty is a bigger contribution, it's being embedded left and right.
- rofrol 4mo agoSplits can have different font sizes
- johnwheeler 4mo agoI use Ghost TTY coming from iTerm for no other reason than I saw everybody else using and praising it. Is there some special feature I'm missing? I would only call it a marginal improvement. If that. I fail to see what the big deal is.
- fridder 4mo agoI personally like how I barely had to configure it, how nerd fonts just worked, and how nicely it renders text
- mixmastamyk 4mo agoIt’s not quite finished, give it time to mature. But pretty good already.
- johnwheeler 4mo agoYeah, it's a good polished piece of software no doubt. I'm not denying that, but the hype it gets is just... I don't know.
- mixmastamyk 4mo agoAgreed, though it hasn’t been excessive in my experience. Just that the devs are better at marketing than others. Really shows how important that side of the equation is. Wish I was better at it myself.
- abnercoimbre 4mo ago> Just that the devs are better at marketing than others. I will "quietly" self-plug Terminal Click [0] because Ghostty and TC have discussed their differences in the past (check out the Media page.) I'm definitely not ready to do splashes of any kind, because what Ghostty lacks in novelty Terminal Click lacks in polish. [0] https://terminal.click https://terminal.click
- kyrra 4mo ago
- pelasaco 4mo ago> however I'm beginning to think that their greater contribution is ghostty Is that meant as an argument in favor of "another $400k for Zig" or against it? I like Ghostty, but investing $800k to develop a programming language that is primarily known for producing a terminal emulator doesn't sound like a particularly strong argument in its favor. Genuine question. I’m not trolling.
- Lerc 4mo agoIt's just a recognition of things done. If there is a greater message, most people could probably put a similar amount of work on a project for the community. Not many can write a lege cheque for a cause. Many who can, do so and consider their job done. It's a credit for someone to be able to do one but choose to do both.
- pelasaco 4mo agoIs this really recognition for what Zig has already achieved, or is it simply another way of financing its future development? Mitchell clearly benefits from Zig succeeding. Well, some of his products depend on it. From a cynical point of view, donating nearly a million dollars is also a way to gain soft power over the language's future direction... I'm not suggesting that's his motivation though... I'm just asking whether someone who funds such a large share of a language's development inevitably ends up influencing its direction, even if he don't formally control the project.
- anotherevan 4mo agoThe ctrl-tab tab switching behaviour being round-robin instead of stack[1] is what is keeping me on Konsole. None of the newer consoles (for Linux) seem to have this. [1] https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/discussions/2393 https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/discussions/2393
- throwaway2037 4mo agoI can see that both styles could be useful to different types of users. Why not make it an option?