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> With all the issues in the US and generally wrong direction, I can’t remember them ever arresting people for mean tweets in the way that Germany and the UK ha

by lmm 4mo ago

> With all the issues in the US and generally wrong direction, I can’t remember them ever arresting people for mean tweets in the way that Germany and the UK have. Then you haven't been paying attention. The constitution prevents citizens from being convicted, but that doesn't stop arrests or being turned away at the border (even for permanent residents who've lived in the US for decades), and US citizens don't seem to care, so it's cold comfort for many of us.

cpursley 4mo ago
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- lmm 4mo ago
  A 30 second search found me https://www.fire.org/news/he-spent-37-days-jail-facebook-post-now-fire-has-his-back https://www.fire.org/news/he-spent-37-days-jail-facebook-pos... . You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride. (And you're pretty thoroughly proving my point about US citizens not caring about anyone else)
  - nxm 4mo ago
    Yay you found a single instance, and more over there are legal means of recourse, unlike the the UK when you’re jailed or fined and that’s it
    - wat10000 4mo ago
      Don't give a sarcastic reply about finding a single instance, when the request was literally "Please share a single instance." It's just silly.
- hdgvhicv 4mo ago
  https://youtu.be/tB3WVygAM8I https://youtu.be/tB3WVygAM8I
- t-3 4mo ago
  The US has arrested many people for speech, and even made charges stick many time. A famous historical example is charging Eugene Debs (and many others) with sedition for opposing WWI and the draft. There was at least one case of being arrested for political social media posts, already linked in adjacent threads. Threats of violence or even sufficiently harsh language to cause fear-for-life can be a crime. "Revenge porn" and deepfakes have had laws passed curtailing them and prosecutions made. The US is certainly less restrictive of speech than other countries, but you're nowhere near entirely free to say or post anything you want.
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- dminik 4mo ago
  The posts don't even need to be offensive, just uncomfortable: https://www.fox4news.com/news/woman-arrested-facebook-post-concerning-trinidad-water-poisoning https://www.fox4news.com/news/woman-arrested-facebook-post-c...
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- vrganj 4mo ago
  Why does it need to be a US citizen? Is mistreatment okay if they're not a citizen? That clause reads extremely chauvinist to me.
leptons 4mo ago
>and US citizens don't seem to care I think maybe you haven't been paying attention. Most of us do care. Trump's approval rating is pretty low at 36%, and his disapproval rating is high. Just because he's still causing chaos doesn't mean the majority of us don't care about it. There's just no legal way to remove him, and his cronies simply won't do it - there's not enough votes in congress or he would have been gone after his first or second impeachment. https://www.npr.org/2026/06/20/nx-s1-5861764/trumps-job-approval-rating-has-dropped-to-36-a-new-npr-pbs-news-marist-poll-shows https://www.npr.org/2026/06/20/nx-s1-5861764/trumps-job-appr...
- lysium 4mo ago
  I understand your point, however I don’t buy „there's just no legal way to remove him“. With so low ratings where are the daily protests against such type of government? Surely, nationwide daily protests would make elected officials reconsider their positions, given an upcoming midterm election, while there still is one. Don’t get me wrong, I know the thousands reasons why you won’t join a protest, I’m „guilty“ myself. I just want to argue against your argument that I quoted because this puts all of us in an unhelpful victim mentality.
  - rob74 4mo ago
    Then again, nationwide daily protests would give the Trump administration an excuse to send ICE / the army / whoever else they can send to the cities where the protests take place (I guess they would be mostly blue-leaning ones) to "restore order", and at the same time lay the groundwork for influencing the November elections. But the turnout at the periodic nationwide "No Kings" protests has been very good, and they have fortunately stayed peaceful.
    - throwaway27448 4mo ago
      You'd think a "no oligarchs" protest would be a little more useful given that we aren't likely to revert to a monarchy any time soon. checks notes what's this? The protests were organized by oligarchic lackeys? Hmm
nxm 4mo ago
A few people being stopped to check if their residency is valid is more than fine considering the last admin flooded the country with 20mil migrants with its open border policy

by lmm 4mo ago

cpursley 4mo ago

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lmm 4mo ago
A 30 second search found me https://www.fire.org/news/he-spent-37-days-jail-facebook-post-now-fire-has-his-back https://www.fire.org/news/he-spent-37-days-jail-facebook-pos... . You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride. (And you're pretty thoroughly proving my point about US citizens not caring about anyone else)
- nxm 4mo ago
  Yay you found a single instance, and more over there are legal means of recourse, unlike the the UK when you’re jailed or fined and that’s it
  - wat10000 4mo ago
    Don't give a sarcastic reply about finding a single instance, when the request was literally "Please share a single instance." It's just silly.
hdgvhicv 4mo ago
https://youtu.be/tB3WVygAM8I https://youtu.be/tB3WVygAM8I
t-3 4mo ago
The US has arrested many people for speech, and even made charges stick many time. A famous historical example is charging Eugene Debs (and many others) with sedition for opposing WWI and the draft. There was at least one case of being arrested for political social media posts, already linked in adjacent threads. Threats of violence or even sufficiently harsh language to cause fear-for-life can be a crime. "Revenge porn" and deepfakes have had laws passed curtailing them and prosecutions made. The US is certainly less restrictive of speech than other countries, but you're nowhere near entirely free to say or post anything you want.
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dminik 4mo ago
The posts don't even need to be offensive, just uncomfortable: https://www.fox4news.com/news/woman-arrested-facebook-post-concerning-trinidad-water-poisoning https://www.fox4news.com/news/woman-arrested-facebook-post-c...
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vrganj 4mo ago
Why does it need to be a US citizen? Is mistreatment okay if they're not a citizen? That clause reads extremely chauvinist to me.

leptons 4mo ago

>and US citizens don't seem to care I think maybe you haven't been paying attention. Most of us do care. Trump's approval rating is pretty low at 36%, and his disapproval rating is high. Just because he's still causing chaos doesn't mean the majority of us don't care about it. There's just no legal way to remove him, and his cronies simply won't do it - there's not enough votes in congress or he would have been gone after his first or second impeachment. https://www.npr.org/2026/06/20/nx-s1-5861764/trumps-job-approval-rating-has-dropped-to-36-a-new-npr-pbs-news-marist-poll-shows https://www.npr.org/2026/06/20/nx-s1-5861764/trumps-job-appr...

lysium 4mo ago
I understand your point, however I don’t buy „there's just no legal way to remove him“. With so low ratings where are the daily protests against such type of government? Surely, nationwide daily protests would make elected officials reconsider their positions, given an upcoming midterm election, while there still is one. Don’t get me wrong, I know the thousands reasons why you won’t join a protest, I’m „guilty“ myself. I just want to argue against your argument that I quoted because this puts all of us in an unhelpful victim mentality.
- rob74 4mo ago
  Then again, nationwide daily protests would give the Trump administration an excuse to send ICE / the army / whoever else they can send to the cities where the protests take place (I guess they would be mostly blue-leaning ones) to "restore order", and at the same time lay the groundwork for influencing the November elections. But the turnout at the periodic nationwide "No Kings" protests has been very good, and they have fortunately stayed peaceful.
  - throwaway27448 4mo ago
    You'd think a "no oligarchs" protest would be a little more useful given that we aren't likely to revert to a monarchy any time soon. checks notes what's this? The protests were organized by oligarchic lackeys? Hmm

nxm 4mo ago

A few people being stopped to check if their residency is valid is more than fine considering the last admin flooded the country with 20mil migrants with its open border policy