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Wow UK you went full 1984 + usual suspect + minority report

• amelius 4mo ago
  Where is copyright when you need it?
• Jtarii 4mo ago
  Literally every police force in the world will be using AI to help solve crimes.
  • VladVladikoff 4mo ago
    At this point I’m basically shocked when people tell me they don’t use AI to assist them in some part of their job, regardless of career.
    • uberex 4mo ago
      That is true. Police will have to use AI (criminals will!) but we need protect socieity from any bias, miscarriage of justice, police harrassment etc. There needs to be strict governance over the tool use. A cop in the UK was recently suspended (I think suspended) for allegedly using AI unofficially to fabricate evidence.
• ErroneousBosh 4mo ago
  Why would you think that? This is never going to work. It's going to get handed to SSS/NEC/Capita/whatever the fuck they're called this week, they'll get billions of pounds of government money, they won't be able to launch, and it'll quietly get buried. What this is for is much simpler - it's for funnelling billions of pounds of the public purse into wealthy Conservatives. We've had nearly 50 years of Tory misrule and fraud. This is just Businesss As Usual for them.
  • Xophmeister 4mo ago
    Why would a Labour government be interested in enriching wealthy Conservatives?
    • ErroneousBosh 4mo ago
      They're all Conservatives. We've had a Conservative government since Thatcher.
• krisbolton 4mo ago
  Sounds like automation to me rather than 1984. 800 hours of video searched in 3 hours, hardly the destruction of democracy.
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  • iLoveOncall 4mo ago
    > 800 hours of video searched in 3 hours, hardly the destruction of democracy You are completely wrong. Laws in their current state are a completely broken system, because they don't account for future technology, and do not include a mandatory regular review. When the 2nd ammendment was included in the constitution, guns were innacurate and unreliable weapons shooting a few bullets per minute. If the guns then had been the assault rifles shooting at 900RPM you can buy nowadays in Walmart, you better believe the 2nd ammendment would not exist. Similarly, you do not know what was the intent when video surveillance was first deemed acceptable evidence in court. But you know for sure that they weren't processing 800 hours of video in 3 hours, and you also know that they intent for this review to be done by actual human beings.
    • dgroshev 4mo ago
      Thankfully, we do have laws that change with the times over here in the UK. Just a couple months ago we had a constitutional change (abolishment of hereditary peers) and that was just another Thursday. It's fine, we don't need to rely on deliberately inefficient police force. Substituting political process and laws changing with the times with political nihilism and fetishisation of old norms (indeed, see 2A; also see a paramilitary executing political opponents and how 2A influenced that) is how one ends up with a broken state.
      • iLoveOncall 4mo ago
        There are tens of thousands of laws in the UK. How many are reviewed how often? The extreme majority never is, by design. Technology enables an expansion of the power of the law without actual changes to those laws.
• uberex 4mo ago
  More like full Mr Bates and Robodebt
• dofm 4mo ago
  Police forces across the world and in particular in the USA are already using it. I would much, much rather see this experiment contained to one really boring, competent British AI project than allow the kind of bullshit we are seeing, and maybe this will be a key plank in the process of actually pushing Palantir out.
  • flatIronSteak 4mo ago
    Any technology that may be responsibly used today has no guarantee of being used responsibly and ethically in the future. If the polls are to be believed, the UK is likely to be ruled by a far-right party after the next general election. Between this, digital ID, police facial recognition technology, and 'age verification', well... its like the current incumbent party are actively trying to give the new one all of the tools needed to oppress before they're even in office.
    • dofm 4mo ago
      > If the polls are to be believed, the UK is likely to be ruled by a far-right party after the next general election. If the most recent actual election of a candidate is to be believed, Reform cannot even take a high stakes scalp in the easiest possible context — a totally unnecessary, frankly engineered election designed to solve the Labour leadership crisis. Even in that absolutely fucking farcical, facially offensive, wasteful context, voters still managed to organise themselves to conclusively keep out the one candidate who they could have used to give the government a kicking. So I am less worried than I was. Reform have always had the biggest hill to climb in political history to get enough candidates to form a majority; it will be desperately hard work. And now I think they have much less of a chance of doing it. Makerfield was a test they failed unambiguously, and partly this is because they have already split on the right. They really, really wanted it, and they failed.
      • flatIronSteak 4mo ago
        I don't think you can base your prediction of the next general election on a single local election for a constituency that has been a labour stronghold since its inception in 1983. Like it or not, the polls are scary, and they're predicting something that is possible. The incumbent government should be bearing that in mind when making decisions.