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> "To avoid the next problem: 'Microsoft locked my data behind bitlocker, and now I can't get it back.' they need to store that key on the MS account." Doesn't
by xg15 4mo ago
> "To avoid the next problem: 'Microsoft locked my data behind bitlocker, and now I can't get it back.' they need to store that key on the MS account."
Doesn't that make the account requirement even more scary? So now if MS decides for some reason to lock my account, this will make even the data I have on my local disks inaccessible as well?
- mynameisvlad 4mo agoYou can save your recovery key in different formats (printed, on a USB stick, etc). The online recovery is just automatic.
- vladvasiliu 4mo agoI think that when you have an MS account with the automatic online key backup, BitLocker is actually turned on automatically, and the user isn't presented with the option to back it up elsewhere. You need to know about this, and manually back it up.
- polski-g 4mo agoSo the encryption of your personal computer is at the whims of the least competent employee at Microsoft?
- mynameisvlad 4mo agoI'm not exactly sure what your point is. This has always been the case considering Microsoft made the encryption itself.
- sieabahlpark 4mo ago[dead]
- superkuh 4mo agoVery much so. And it's even more scary that MS uses dark patterns to trick older non-technical users into enabling MS online accounts. When the bitlocker activation automatically happens during tricking the user into going from a local account to online account it is without the user's consent or real participation. They don't print out a copy of the key or move it to a usb drive becuase they aren't aware their drives are being encrypted. And afterwards they can't set up recovery keys because the computer itself only shows the blue aka.ms screen. It's effectively dead until they follow the demands. This is not theoretical, it actually happened to my mother on the local account Win 11 computer I set up for her sewing applications. I had to drive across town in order to figure it out since the weird URL I'd never heard of (aka.ms) and demand for pasting private info sounded so much like ransomware. And in fact, it was effectively ransomware, it was just demanding online activity rather than money.
- hurtigioll 4mo agoit does look sketchy, but microsoft used aka.ms since forever, especially for short links to various SDKs (aka.ms/pwsh7)
- pluralmonad 4mo agoThe actual URL was the least sketchy part of that story.
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- iamnothere 4mo agoI don’t see what the problem is. Just don’t get into any business that MS considers shady, or disparage the company publicly, or piss off an executive, or get sanctioned because your work with the UN is at cross purposes with the current US administration.
- SXX 4mo agoOr anything that random LLM might consider shady...
- exploderate 4mo agoYou are probably talking about Kahn. The international Criminal Court is not part of the UN. It is distinct from the International Court of Justice. As of October 2024, there are 125 states parties to the Rome Statute, which are represented in the court's governing body, the Assembly of States Parties. Countries that are not party to the Rome Statute and do not recognise the court's jurisdiction include China, India, Russia, and the United States. Member states represent around a third of the world population.
- ndsipa_pomu 4mo agoIs that sarcasm? What happens if MS decides that using competitors software is "shady" - they have previous form of unfair competition practices, so it's not unlikely. Also, what happens if the US administration decides that MS software is only authorised if you have white skin and support Trump?
- timedude 4mo agoIt could also simply be a false positive, as that seems to be happening a lot lately.
- kexelion 4mo agoAs someone who lives in the terminal and uses Obsidian, this is cool. Out of curiosity — have you thought about voice input? 90% of my “notes” start as me talking into my phone for 60 seconds after a meeting, AI structures it, then I drop the markdown into Obsidian. The typing bottleneck is real. A :voice command or something would be killer.
- listenallyall 4mo agoRegardless of account type, there are many things that could require you to need those Bitlocker keys to get your data. Don't just associate them with an account, have Windows save the keys to a text file, and save that text file somewhere external, on a NAS or Dropbox or email itnto yourself or whatever, and print out 2 or 3 hard copies and keep them close by. I'm 1000x more worried about losing my data to a Windows crash/error than to theft or any other external actor.
- protocolture 4mo ago>Doesn't that make the account requirement even more scary? So now if MS decides for some reason to lock my account, this will make even the data I have on my local disks inaccessible as well? Depends. The average user would be more afraid if its not backed up online.
- mulquin 4mo agoI'm not sure there's anything I dislike more than "the average user" because so much good software has been destroyed because of it.
- protocolture 4mo agoI mean thats absolutely a take. Sometimes I like to think about how great a network I could build if I didnt have to service any customers.
- mulquin 4mo agoIt would be the most beautiful, elegant, well-designed and thoroughly hardened network I'm certain. I get it, the software I'm complaining about was designed for profit. The point I'm trying to make is imagine you have to tell a customer that they can't keep using the network design they have, which fits their requirements almost perfectly, because it's too much burden for your network engineers to maintain. Instead, the customer can use this other network design that is suitable for the average customer. So it works, but not as well as before, and the customer will probably need to find some workarounds or shift other processes to accommodate. It's just shit.
- bee_rider 4mo agoThe actual average user is fine. The problem is most companies seem design for some hypothetical average user, who they hate and/or think is a dumbass.
- DaSHacka 4mo ago
- _carbyau_ 4mo agoIt does seem a lot like ransomware.
- LtWorf 4mo agoOH no worries bitlocker had a backdoor for the NSA so it's actually possible to use that to recover the data. https://cybernews.com/security/researcher-releases-bitlocker-bypass-and-privilege-escalation-exploit/ https://cybernews.com/security/researcher-releases-bitlocker...
- fortran77 4mo agoMicrosoft offers it, but they don't need to store it. I store my bitlocker keys locally. (Printed out in a safe).
- avd201 4mo agoWindows became ransomware? lmao