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Based on what? Do you have real proof on it or is it just a guess that Chinese companies aren’t better than American ones?

khalic 4mo ago
It's neither the American nor Chinese LABS I'm weary of, it's their government, both very prone to interference "in the name of national security"
WarmWash 4mo ago
Chinese companies are literally the state of China. So the question is "How much do I trust Xi Jinpeng (or whoever is the chosen successor)?" American companies will compromise and work with the government diplomatically. Chinese companies are the government. Its a key distinction many fail to grasp, and hard to when you are lost in the sauce of constant American political infighting.
- casey2 4mo ago
  Number of countries invaded by China in the last 2000 years: 0 Obviously debatable, even then still limited to countries at the border. What I definitely wouldn't trust are the western nation states that have been planting their flag across the globe for the last few hundred years. No matter the case they consistently view themselves as the moral superior of their enemies, whom they treat as pure evil and they aren't shy about forcing their morals on you. Whether it's prudish Victorian imperial England, or Fart sniffing San Franciscans they share the belief that they are the most enlightened and everyone else is dangerous. China is still largely tributary, as long as you pay taxes you can do what you want, while the west is evangelical, you must adopt the same framework (moral, or technological e.g. rust) or you are a heretic.
YetAnotherNick 4mo ago
Most of qwen's model is open source, but qwen max is closed source. Also if you believe that they are not burning billions for charity, in my thinking making the model closed or restricted is the way to earn return on their investment.

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Based on what? Do you have real proof on it or is it just a guess that Chinese companies aren’t better than American ones?

by victorbjorklund 4mo ago

khalic 4mo ago
It's neither the American nor Chinese LABS I'm weary of, it's their government, both very prone to interference "in the name of national security"
WarmWash 4mo ago
Chinese companies are literally the state of China. So the question is "How much do I trust Xi Jinpeng (or whoever is the chosen successor)?" American companies will compromise and work with the government diplomatically. Chinese companies are the government. Its a key distinction many fail to grasp, and hard to when you are lost in the sauce of constant American political infighting.
- casey2 4mo ago
  Number of countries invaded by China in the last 2000 years: 0 Obviously debatable, even then still limited to countries at the border. What I definitely wouldn't trust are the western nation states that have been planting their flag across the globe for the last few hundred years. No matter the case they consistently view themselves as the moral superior of their enemies, whom they treat as pure evil and they aren't shy about forcing their morals on you. Whether it's prudish Victorian imperial England, or Fart sniffing San Franciscans they share the belief that they are the most enlightened and everyone else is dangerous. China is still largely tributary, as long as you pay taxes you can do what you want, while the west is evangelical, you must adopt the same framework (moral, or technological e.g. rust) or you are a heretic.
YetAnotherNick 4mo ago
Most of qwen's model is open source, but qwen max is closed source. Also if you believe that they are not burning billions for charity, in my thinking making the model closed or restricted is the way to earn return on their investment.