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What happens to an economy when it's too hot to work?
- ksymph 4mo agohttps://archive.ph/9I5e1 https://archive.ph/9I5e1
- inigyou 4mo agoSimple question, simple answer: just like every other time, no help is coming. Individuals either survive and reproduce or they don't.
- sbmthakur 4mo agoWonder how much of a temperature difference is due to El Nino? As a kid I used to spend some time in central India during summers(temp: 40-43C). It helped that schools used to be shut around that time and expectedly, people would spend as little time outside as possible. Also, it's the hot winds that get you(usually more prevalent in the countryside).
- tartoran 4mo agoWhat are the hot winds and how bad are they? I can only imagine but but it’s the first time im hearing of hot winds.
- rdedev 4mo agoIt's hard to imagine if you have not experienced it. The air would still be hot even after the sun sets in some parts of India. Usually when wind blows over you you feel cool. With hot air it's like a blow dryer in your face. Just thermal energy being dumped on you making you feel even worse
- altern8 4mo agoThat sounds absolutely awful
- s0rce 4mo agoIf you are in the US then you can go to a hot place in the south west, even Eastern WA/OR or the California central valley when its >105F outside the wind blows and it feels like a hair drier or opening the oven, its not a cool breeze.
- NegativeK 4mo agoI live in the desert SW after living in far more humid climates. Two weird experiences: Standing outside talking to friends after the sun set, where it's still over 100F outside: I could feel brief (minor) chills pass over me as I'd sweat in bursts and it'd instantly evaporate. And back when I was cycling, I'd start summer rides about an hour before dawn, when it'd be at its coldest (sometimes 90F for the low). I learned to not rub my face because I'd have salt crystals from dried sweat, and they would abrade skin near the corners of my eyes.
- toast0 4mo agoIn southern california, they have santa ana winds[1], which are often hot and very dry. When I lived there it was pretty unpleasant when they were strong. A hot wind in a place that's much warmer would be a lot of heat stress for people. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds
- rishav_sharan 4mo agoHere you go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loo_(wind) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loo_(wind)
- imoverclocked 4mo ago> it's the hot winds that get you The difference between sun and shade is pretty big too.
- imoverclocked 4mo agoFor anyone that hasn't had heat sickness, it's not a one-and-done ordeal. You become more sensitive to heat after getting sick from it. It can easily take a month of careful exposure to regain tolerance but working in the same conditions is not the same thing. In addition, heat sickness is awful.
- richtersand 4mo agoAka Heat stroke
- jmalicki 4mo agoHeat sickness sucks, but you pull through even if the sustained temperature does not great things. Heat stroke is a life-threatening medical emergency (e.g. call 911) when they body has gotten so hot that organ systems that are capable of regulating temperature start malfunctioning, and things can go downhill extremely quickly from that point.
- senectus1 4mo agocooking the proteins in your blood stream will put you to an end very quickly. (but not quick enough that you dont experience the horror and pain of it)
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- sixtyj 4mo ago> Almost half of the global population will be living with extreme heat by 2050 if the world reaches 2C of global warming above preindustrial levels, according to a University of Oxford study published in January.
- imoverclocked 4mo agoGood thing we are working so hard to automate the kind of work where you sit in the shade at a desk. (/sarcasm) I think the disconnect between many people hearing "2C of warming" and the overall effects that will have is grossly underestimated. I kinda wish we could talk about how much raw energy that is ... even if we use American units of barrels of oil, or something.
- bobthepanda 4mo agoWe tried talking about sea level rise and land area inundation, and more severe storms, and amongst many the collective response was to stick their fingers in their ears. The real conversation we should have is about money talking; a huge amount of assets are facing being stranded by insurers. Insurance doesn't really care about ideology, they care about making money, and so the fact they are losing money to climate change is pretty irrefutable evidence. Though right now politicians are just reframing this as "greedy insurance", which isn't exactly untrue.
- calvinmorrison 4mo agoProbably cause we bailed out south Jersey and instead of packing up and heading inland Margate boasts homes over 1.5 million dollars
- derf_ 4mo ago> ...the fact they are losing money to climate change is pretty irrefutable evidence. Insurance prices risk. If risk goes up, so do prices. They will not lose (much) money (or not for long) [1], your insurance will just get a lot more expensive, maybe to the point you can no longer afford it. If the government tries to control prices, then insurers will just exit the market, or the only entrants will be severely under-capitalized, merely providing the veneer of insurance (e.g., because your mortgage lender requires it). This is already happening in Florida and Louisiana [2]. These insurers will simply go bankrupt in the event of a catastrophe, and you will be stuck with the loss. [1] Technically, in a competitive environment, many insurance companies will operate with a (small) underwriting loss, but they make up the difference by investing the float during the time between when they collect the premiums and when they pay out on claims. They will not operate with an unbounded loss. [2] https://www.wsj.com/finance/small-insurance-company-hurricanes-a41766d9 https://www.wsj.com/finance/small-insurance-company-hurrican...
- ares623 4mo agosiesta for you, siesta for you, siesta for everybody!
- boelboel 4mo agoI've read before that a large portion of the warmest parts (Uttar Pradesh/Bihar) of India actually haven't had its temperature rise much because of coal power, farm burning and dust in general (a lot from construction) the particles block basically protect them against the sun. Putting India in a spot where if it would cease relying on coal power in 30-40+ years it would cause the temperature to rise.
- nxobject 4mo agoWhat a choice: heatstroke, or chronic respiratory disease?
- HerbManic 4mo agoBasically given the choice of one kills in hours and other in decades. Can we try to take option c?
- OutOfHere 4mo agoThere is nothing stopping them from releasing sulfur dioxide into the air to have the same effect in an engineered and superior manner. Also, various surfaces can be painted white to reflect sunlight back into space. Trees also can be planted, and forests restored. The good thing about green energy is that one there is a sufficient amount of it, it can also be used for extensive indoor air conditioning.
- mschuster91 4mo ago> The good thing about green energy is that one there is a sufficient amount of it, it can also be used for extensive air conditioning. The heat doesn't vanish with AC, at least not unless you use a very expensive deep-underground well as a heatsink instead of the open air. Even if everyone has AC indoor - the air outdoor will still be too hot and, most likely, humid, with all the expelled heat from the ACs added on top of that. Animals won't stand a chance, especially wild ones, and humans that absolutely have to work outside (e.g. policemen, firefighters, EMS) will be just as impacted. We have to face the reality: large parts of the globe, impacting billions of people, will be unable to support human and a lot of animal and plant life during the summer months if climate change continues at the current pace in a short enough time that most people reading this text will eventually witness this.
- FrustratedMonky 4mo agoIf you don't have air conditioning, your laptop is going to have problems.
- HerbManic 4mo agoIn the hotter parts of summer I typically down clock/undervolt my machines to at least hold off them potentially cooking themselves a little. For most work, I don't even need a whole Ghz yet alone 3+ Ghz so it isn't a big issue. Yes, there are safety measure built in but I just give them a helping hand.
- Havoc 4mo agoOnly the shitty ones. People in places with 40+ heat do in fact use laptops like everyone else
- trhway 4mo agoin Spain they have siesta. We observed it in Valencia region - everything stops from 12-1pm until about 5-6pm. The life after that goes well into the night, shops stay open until 1-2am, etc. In USSR/Russia during especially hot summers the team/orgs i worked at (outside on construction and in the other years inside as programmers (no ACs were yet widespread there back in the 199x)) were working at night skipping the daytime siesta-style.
- warumdarum 4mo agoI always found those japanese van vests supercool. I guess work AC will become more normal
- zem 4mo agoif growing up in dubai was any indication, what happens (at least for the next little while) is you get a steady stream of desperately poor people who work until they wreck their health and then get replaced by the next desperate person.
- polski-g 4mo agoThis is coming to an end now that almost every country is below replacement fertility.
- vx_r 4mo agoI'd say almost too ominous
- xg15 4mo agoEasy fix, just automate away all humans. Economy saved!