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During the State of Platform keynote, on the subject of Swift adoption across macOS, several examples were given, not only TrueType engine. RIS is happening ac

• DASD 5mo ago
  Curious the direction of Webkit as there was a nebulous mention of select portions being rewritten from C++ to Swift. And yet, the new ECMAScript module (ESM) loader for Safari 27 is implemented in C++ (https://webkit.org/blog/17967/news-from-wwdc26-webkit-in-safari-27-beta/ https://webkit.org/blog/17967/news-from-wwdc26-webkit-in-saf...).
  • pjmlp 5mo ago
    No idea, maybe the private parts of the code, Safari isn't open source, or is coming later. In any case I would have liked to have more info during the deep dive sessions. As it is, Meet with Apple on security (a 5h long event) had much more information.
• hirvi74 5mo ago
  What does RIS stand for?
  • gyomu 5mo ago
    Rewrite in Swift
    • willXare 5mo ago
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      • cwillu 5mo ago
        s/better/blurrier/
        • thewebguyd 5mo ago
          Careful, you’ll bring out all the “but it’s true to print media” people.
        • steve1977 5mo ago
          Life without retina displays is possible, but pointless.
          • ahartmetz 5mo ago
            Lower DPI is quite okay with good font rendering (FreeType, slight hinting, subpixel rendering). I have both kinds of devices.
            • geon 5mo ago
              I get kind of nostalgic when I see Verdana on 1024x768 in winxp/2k.
              • steve1977 5mo ago
                ClearType was/is a nifty technology. I remember I had a HP Jornada PocketPC that came preloaded with The Time Machine to show off ClearType.
          • tonyedgecombe 5mo ago
            I sometimes wish I’d never seen a Retina display. There’s no going back for me now.
• MBCook 5mo ago
  They’ve been doing it for years. I don’t remember how we first knew, but I know they’ve been using Swift in kernels for at least some of the other chips like the Secure Enclave or whatever. I’m not sure exactly which. I assume it’s some of the code and not all. But it’s not new in the abstract. That said I don’t think I’ve heard of it in the kernel of MacOS on the main processor. That may be new. Either way this is certainly the most concrete announcement I remember them ever giving on this stuff.
  • commandersaki 5mo ago
    I know internally they use an IPsec implementation written by Rust (I think in the iCloud infra). Heard this from an ex-Apple engineer Ben (forgot his last name) that did a wonderful presentation of Rust from first principles. He said that it was hard to get people in on Rust when most would argue for Swift. Edit: This is the guy: https://rustcurious.com/course/ https://rustcurious.com/course/
  • pjmlp 5mo ago
    Some stuff was discussed at Meet with Apple security event a few months ago, and the talks on FoundationDB rewrite, or why Swift Embedded subset came to be. However I miss them actually having had one of those 15 - 30m WWDC sessions, where they could have gone a bit deeper into the keynote examples
• JimDabell 5mo ago
  Alexandre Colucci has published a series of articles analysing the use of Swift in iOS and macOS by Apple here: https://blog.timac.org/categories/reverse-engineering/ https://blog.timac.org/categories/reverse-engineering/ And frequently discussed on Hacker News: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=apple%27s%20use%20of%20swift&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
  • pjmlp 5mo ago
    Thanks!